Sorry Jaxi -- I'm not making this stuff up.  And I'm not passing along BS 
either.  I have been using Paypal for years too -- it's taken me that long to 
reach a total spending total of almost ten thousand dollars.  Now -- every time 
that I buy something on Ebay and use Paypal to pay for it, I get a message in 
my 
inbox from Paypal reminding me about the upcoming limit.  Everytime that I log 
in to my account at Paypal, the first message at the top of the page is 
reminding me about the upcoming limit.  The first time that I got the email 
from 
Paypal, I called them and spoke to customer service.  The rep said that the 
message was legitimate, and that when I reach the ten thousand dollar limit, in 
order to continue using Paypal I would have to give them my bank account number 
that is used to pay my credit card bill.  I was told that this was to confirm 
that I am the person that I say that I am.  Which makes no sense whatsoever.

You said something very important in your email below:  "I have a paypal 
account...............it is attached to my bank account".  There you have the 
difference -- you have given them your bank account information.  This is what 
they want from everyone.  My point is that they are not entitled to that 
information.  They are a fee-based service company, they are paid to transfer 
funds to a seller, and to collect those funds from a purchaser.  If a private 
credit card is used for that purpose, and they have no problem collecting from 
that credit card, then there is no basis for them knowing bank account 
information.

I'm sure that there are many people who do dumb things pertaining to Paypal.  I 
think one of the dumb things is to give them your bank account information.
MA  




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From: jaxi <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Fri, October 19, 2012 12:52:01 PM
Subject: Re: Paypal, was Re: CS>Info Silver wire


I think there are people who would try to convince you anything and everything 
is bad and you shouldn't partake of any of it in any way.

In fact there are a great many who would say and do say such things about EIS.  

I think they are whack - and I think the majority of this paypal scare stuff is 
whack too.  (whack in this context meaning BS, not true, people making stuff up)

I have had a paypal account since pretty close to when paypal started.  It is 
attached to my bank account and one of my credit cards.  There are some tricks 
to using it if you want to avoid fees, but for most person to person 
transactions you can avoid all fees unless the person paying is using a credit 
card - and then there are ways to ensure the person paying accepts the fees.  
This is not unreasonable as the credit card companies charge those fees to use 
credit cards - all merchants who take credit cards have to pay them one way or 
another.  I have never had a lick of trouble with paypal.  I started using it 
because of ebay stuff back in ... the late 90s if memory serves ... so close to 
15 years ... no trouble at all.  It has allowed me to accept payment from 
people 
all over the world for a variety of items, handled the exchange of currency for 
me and made shifting the funds to my bank account easy.  They have never 
"drained" any money from any account.  


I suspect most of the stuff that happens is because of people doing dumb things 
- for example agreeing to something that charges a monthly fee and not 
realizing 
they have done so - people do this with credit cards too - example - netflix.  
I 
believe that facebook has some sneaky stuff where if you agree to pay for 
something with paypal (people who play those games and actually give them 
money) 
it enters you into a one click agreement sort of thing for future purchases 
unless you cancel that part - so it could be easy to accidentally "buy" 
something you didn't mean to.  Paypal isn't intrinsically the problem here - 
dumb consumers are - IMO.  I do not hook my paypal up with anything that incurs 
a recurring monthly fee or could be paid with a 1 click payment.  I won't let 
Amazon do that 1 click purchasing crap either.  


Jaxi


On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:27 PM, sol <[email protected]> wrote:

I think I will simply stop purchasing anything from anywhere that requires me 
to 
use paypal as the credit card processor.
>sol 
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