Dee
I wouldnt be concerned about liposomal sublinqual spray having negative
effects at all. What I said about the macrophages and all that was just
interesting things I found in Pub Med papers surrounding the issue of
liposome absorption. The reduced macrophage action was due to large IV
doses. In combination with a toxin called clodronate, they can wipe out
your macrophages this way. It shows that macrophages consume liposomes,
and I think thats why I brought up. My question was; are oral liposomes
really being absorbed and is there evidence that oral liposomes vastly
increase cellular uptake. If you run across an answer, let me know.
Your sublingual is fine.
M
On 12/7/2012 5:56 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Re: CS>HIV success with CS?>>liposomes? So from this it would seem
that supplementing with Vit D3 is a good thing as most of us *don*'t
get the sort of sun exposure that we need. I have read that Vit D3
has the ability to trigger the cancer cells to self-destruct and this
is why it has been found that cancer patients have very low levels of
it. I asked the question because I use the Now brand of liposomal
sublingual spray version containing both Vit D3 and Vit K2. It was
the liposomal part which bothered me because of your information. dee
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How did this get started? Maybe because I said that liposomes can
transiently decrease macrophage activity and then someone said vit D
is a rat poison as a rebuttal, trying I think to say that even well
known healthy things can be toxic depending on the dose..
Its not only the quantity but how well your body balances things with
other hormones and vitamins. Excess calcium circulating in the system
can be toxic. Vit D can cause this.
Probably everybody knows Dr Mercola is big on Vit D
Its off topic but here is a little Mercola extract;
sun exposure or the use of a safe tanning bed are the best options to
optimize your vitamin D levels. You cannot overdose when getting your
vitamin D from sun exposure, as your body has the ability to
self-regulate and only make what it needs. If these options are not
available, a supplement can be used, but keep the following in mind:
* According to the most recent findings by Carole Baggerly, founder
of GrassrootsHealth <http://www.grassrootshealth.net/> , her
research of nearly 10,000 people shows the ideal adult dose
appears to be *8,000 IU's a day* to get most into the healthy range.
* When you do supplement with vitamin D, you'll only want to
supplement with natural vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol).
* As an aside, there is evidence that the safety of vitamin D is
dependent on vitamin K, and that vitamin D toxicity (although very
rare with the D3 form) is actually aggravated by vitamin K2
deficiency. So if you take oral vitamin D, ideally you should take
vitamin K2 as well
<http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/10/27/the-stealth-vitamin-that-can-improve-your-insulin-sensitivity.aspx>
or use organic fermented foods that are high in vitamin K2, as
you need about 150 mcg per day.
* The "normal" 25-hydroxyvitamin D lab range is between 20-56 ng/ml.
But, this conventional range *is really a sign of deficiency*, and
is too broad to be ideal. In fact, your vitamin D level should
/not/ be below 32 ng/ml, and any levels below 20 ng/ml are
considered serious deficiency states, increasing your risk of
cancer and autoimmune diseases like multiple sclerosis and
rheumatoid arthritis, just to name a few.
*
* Remember that if you were in the sun nearly every day with large
amounts of your skin exposed and not taking any oral vitamin D,
your level would be around 100 ng/ml.
