Hallo AJR, Umm, Call me what you want. But most of my relevant credentials are alternate or complementary healing of one sort or another.
I tried MMS at the lowest dose and it made me sick as a dog and it took me at least 5 weeks to get back to my normal self. There was absolutely no help at the time from the MMS group. I was not the only one, there had already been several and there were many after me who complained. We were all shut down and poo-pood and ignored. Then a few chemically orientated people chimed in and pointed out what could be happening physiologically or biologically. .. then Jim Humble changed his formulation to a much weaker solution or used a different acid or something. I'd lost interest in the MMS and the deaf bigots surrounding the concept. MMS is an excellent concept really but some people react very, very badly to it. That should be factored in and dealt with by recommending starting off at 10th or 100th dose the first few time and build up to ones level of acceptance. The fact that some people can take a heroic dose from start has the potential to harm person, harm MMS and harm the whole alt health movement. If, instead of V8 bulldosing, the MMS people could have checked on initial discomfort and then recommended reverting to a much lower dose, they could have pleased everybody. This sort of protocol is standard practise in any sane modality. Even medics do this. I believe it is called titration. When I made colloidal silver devices that is one of the concepts mentioned in the manual. Mentioning MMS in the same breath as CS, DMSO and O2 therapy is sacrilege in my opinion for the only reason that MMS does not advocate caution. I've done CS by the litre per day, I've taken DMSO neat by the teaspoon, several times per day. I've done ozone insulflations and blood exchanges, and breathed the stuff up to coughing level, no problems. I've taken O3 bubbled water by the litre. All no problem. I've done an H202 oral slow build up but soon got to a level that kept me consistently nauseous; so I backed off. I had to stop entirely before nausea went away. I'm not knocking H2O2 , just can't / don't want to do it; its too rough for me. If I was driven to H2O2 then i would first do some thorough cleansing first. Drink copious amounts of warm water, then go on to mild liver cleanse ; garlic lemon and olive oil drink. paying strict attention to diet, then do a series of liver cleanses with flushing enemas. A few weeks dedicated to that and i probably wouldn't need H2O2 anyway. :-) Have you considered that MMS Sodium Chlorite could perhaps have an emetic mixed in to discourage people from ingesting it? Could some be coming from say china ?? My apology for this rave Mike, I'ts just that I feel that my feet have been crushed rather unfairly. OK, Tony On 2 Nov 2014 at 12:02, AJR wrote about : Subject : Re: CS>MMS and "Church" > Hi Alan > There have been more then 20 million bottles of MMS used since it was > started in the year 2000 and > there are no records of people being harmed if they follow the > instructions properly..Nothing > is perfect..As you are aware..there are a number of people who have been > planted on these lists by > Big pharmacy and the medical Cartel to disrupt and make problems for > members..These people are easy to spot > as they all have the same negative attitude..They don’t realize that > each year in america there are close to > a million people who die from approved Pharmaceutical Drugs..Also > Doctors are the # 1 killer of people and they can do it legally > with no problems..They are not hard to spot on this list so it important > to keep an open mind..How do they sleep at night... > They need to do honest research but in these cases it won’t work as > they have a hidden agenda..Colloidal Silver, MMS, Oxygen therapy, > DMSO, and many others are good protocols.and deserve to be > appreciated..Ebola is coming and it is not going to be nice. > DEE lets give these protocols a chance as we are going to need them.. > AJR > > > From: Alan Faulkner > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 6:49 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>MMS and "Church" > > I have never heard of anyone having an extremely bad reaction to MMS. > > Your body gets sick for a variety of reasons or as Nelson Bradley > suggests, for 5 reasons; toxins, diet, psychological, pathogen, > electrical disruption, skeletal issues. In order to straighten the body > out, often "stuff" has to be offloaded. The process of offloading it may > be unpleasant, but to blame it on something or someone is to be a fool. > > Often MMS will cause a very brief case of diarrhea (as in my case about > 5 minutes) which is simply the body's way of offloading the trash you > consumed yourself. Happened to me and felt very right and afterwards was > a great relief. > > Whether you off load the 'stuff' through something like Pancha Karma > (Ayurveda) or the various herbal mixtures, or MMS or whatever, the idea > is that you do have to get rid of stuff occasionally. If you have > cancer, it took quite awhile to get to the point where the cancer showed > up, so to dump it quickly may not be comfortable. > > Now having said that some PPL see the MMS protocols and think "hmmmm if > a little is good then a lot is better" (typically male) so they consume > way too much with predictable results. > > I doubt that MMS has risks, when used sensibly, because after it kills > pathogens it changes into a weak salt and then exits the body. > > Alan > > On 2014-11-01, at 02:36 AM, Dee wrote: > > I think that this probably my thinking Victor because although he has > obviously done a lot of good using MMS, in some people the results could > be bad, so as you say, I think personally that the risk outweighs the > benefits for me. I did know of someone who, a few years ago, insulted > me roundly when I voiced a word of caution about MMS, who later almost > apologised to me, because he had an extremely bad reaction to it...dee > > Sent from my iPad > > On 1 Nov 2014, at 04:47, Victor Cozzetto <victor.cozze...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I just noticed that none of my posts about MMS are in the archive; > which would explain why nobody was responding to me. (Not sure what the > issue is Mike, but luckily I still have all the emails in my outbox). > > > I am not a chemist, but here is my opinion that I have shared with > others in the past: > > I am sure that MMS works for many people, and I do not doubt that it > could potentially cure almost anything. However, I cannot recommend it > or use it with what I currently know. Of course I am still ignorant, but > here are some of the reasons why I would not use it: > > 1. MMS can be dangerous. It can do direct damage to the body, interact > with other chemicals, drugs, etc. It is too unpredictable, and thus the > risk is simply too high for me. > > 2. To my knowledge, MMS cannot do anything that colloidal silver (CS) > cannot do, but CS has zero risk, is cheaper, predictable, and is > guaranteed to be effective. (of course levels of effectiveness vary, > depending on the ailment) > > 3. MMS can also be compared to ozonated water (because it uses > oxidizing effects), but again, the ozonated water has zero risk, is > cheaper, more predictable, and is guaranteed to be effective. > > 4. MMS has the same limitations that both CS and ozonated water have - > in that they cannot directly target lymph, nervous systems, etc. > However, CS and ozonated water contribute directly to strengthening the > immune system, and thus have a direct impact on all health. MMS can > potentially achieve this too, but that is not certain, since it can act > as a toxin, and thus have the opposite effect. > > 5. I might sound too harsh, but I would compare MMS more to chemo. It > isn't of course, but it is a chemical that can have a toxic effect on > the body. It can have a very rapid impact, but I am not sure how good > that is, since it is purely a 'killing' action, and does not enhance the > body's ability to repair. Both CS and Ozone provide direct 'killing' and > greatly enhance the body's ability to defend and repair. > > 6. I would be afraid to use MMS with other treatments, since is it s > chemical that I am not familiar enough with. Thus, I cannot add it to > the things I am doing. CS and Ozonated water work great with a variety > of other treatments and protocols. > > 7. Perhaps the greatest single problem - MMS is often cited as causing > gut problems for people, and that is not good, since the gut is the > heart of our immune system. By contrast, CS has no negative impact on > the gut, and is used to treat various gut ailments. (CS is absorbed very > rapidly in the gut, and normal consumption of kefir, yogurt, fermented > foods, etc. ensure that CS has no negative impact on gut flora). > > Again, I wouldn't doubt that MMS can save lives in places where no > other options are available, but putting that energy into getting CS (or > other treatments) is a much better long-term solution IMHO. > > Victor > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
