Hi There Victor - I am confused and would like to get clarity - I understand that CS cannot penetrate the defence encasement of a virus - expressed in many ways - sack of protein, mucus, hides in nerve encasements like herpes, etc., if this is not so then I am happy to be corrected, my understanding is that a virus is NOT a pathogen, my understanding is that a pathogen is a single cell organism with no protection of any kind and does not hide anywhere for protection, again I am happy to be corrected and would like clarity on this - which is why CS without any carrier can kill by itself - again if I am wrong please correct me. So my final understanding is that this is why carriers or additional healing or combative protocols have to be introduced to assist the CS - again please correct me as I truly need clarity on this confusion which I feel has been going on now for too long.!!!!! Thanks to all who have endured this discussion. Regards Sandeeš¬ Attitude is everything !!! Sandra George Colloidal Silver Products Eye Drops & Topical Gel [email protected]
On 2 Nov 2014, at 19:59, Victor Cozzetto <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Leila, Sandee, I think there is some misunderstanding here that needs to be addressed, as I have seen it written more than once now. DMSO as a carrier - agreed. My concern is about comments referring to biofilm and other carrier actions: CS is one of the only things that DOES penetrate biofilm, and it does it all on its own. DMSO, MSM, MMS, etc., are not necessary for CS to do this. (You mentioned this in another post yesterday Sandee). CS will stop all known pathogens that it comes into contact with. It does not need anything else to stop a virus. Stopping, disabling, etc., is the same end result as killing. No pathogen has ever been found that can survive silver. I believe the confusion may come from the fact that some pathogens can hide in parts of the body that CS cannot reach, or cannot reach in sufficient quantity. This is where something like DMSO comes into play. I do not personally use DMSO, but I have seen enough to believe that it effectively augments CS. I personally use the Beck Protocol (zappers, CS, ozonated water) when CS alone is not enough. I saw MMS, MSM, and oxygen grouped in as carriers too, and I think this is also not completely correct: - MSM can provide some DMSO, and thus be a carrier; however, I think that carrier effect is insignificant. I believe the value of MSM is elsewhere, and thus it is another fine tool for promoting health. - As for MMS, per the other discussions, I have yet to see any unique benefit that it provides. To my knowledge it does not carry or augment CS in any way. - Oxygen protocols, such as ozonated water, are excellent in my opinion, but do not directly carry or augment CS in any way. They instead provide additional healing and killing action, so they are also good to use with CS. (But do not ozonate your CS!) One of the common threads in all of the above is the challenge of getting enough CS in contact with the pathogen. Whether that be by pushing the pathogen to the CS, or by using DMSO, Neti pots, spray bottles, droppers, drinking, swishing, etc. to get the CS to its target. If we get enough CS to the target, it will stop all known pathogens, including Ebola. If anything I have said above is incorrect, please correct me. Victor On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Leila Kostyk <[email protected]> wrote: I use DMSO, seems to penetrate everything. > On Oct 23, 2014, at 10:57 AM, Sandra George <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for this one Ron - what carrier would be good to penetrate the > encasement of the Biofilm carrying the EIS to do itās work ? I think this > is the secret we are missing because the results of using EIS in Africa > belies so much of the chat !!!! > Sandeeš¬ > Attitude is everything !!! > Sandra George > Colloidal Silver Products > Eye Drops & Topical Gel > [email protected] > > > > On 23 Oct 2014, at 11:35, Ron <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is that Biofilm? > > Biofilm: An aggregate of microbes with a distinct architecture. A biofilm is > like a tiny city in which microbial cells, each only a micrometer or two > long, form towers that can be hundreds of micrometers high. The "streets" > between the towers are really fluid-filled channels that bring in nutrients, > oxygen and other necessities for live biofilm communities. > > Biofilms form on the surface of catheter lines and contact lenses. They grow > on pacemakers, heart valve replacements, artificial joints and other surgical > implants. The CDC (Centers for Disease Control) estimate that over 65% of > nosocomial (hospital-acquired) infections are caused by biofilms. > > Bacteria growing in a biofilm are highly resistant to antibiotics, up to > 1,000 times more resistant than the same bacteria not growing in a biofilm. > Standard antibiotic therapy is often useless and the only recourse may be to > remove the contaminated implant. > > Fungal biofilms also frequently contaminate medical devices. They cause > chronic vaginal infections and lead to life-threatening systemic infections > in people with hobbled immune systems. > > Biofilms are involved in numerous diseases. For instance, cystic > fibrosispatients have Pseudomonas infections that often result in antibiotic > resistant biofilms. > Ron >> On 10/23/2014 8:00 AM, Sandra George wrote: >> Because of my own experience with this Chickenguyna virus I have been sent >> back into my past for answers - As I understand the research into virus - >> a virus encases itself as protection - this is why EIS cannot get to kill >> them - oxygen therapy - either ozone or hydrogen peroxide - does what ? >> Are these modalities carriers which can penetrate the virus shields taking >> the EIS WITH THEM TO KILL? If this is so then using oxygen therapy along >> with EIS would be the death to any virus - please confirm or explain how EIS >> is successful in virus treatment which it has been proven in the case of >> HIV, Ebola, and more, which is not discussed openly or admitted to by those >> who would not benefit financially >> It is time for the truth or as near to as is possible >> Sandeeš¬ >> Attitude is everything >> Alive Again Colloidal Silver >> Eye drops & Topical Gel >> >> [email protected] ____________________________________________________________ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:[email protected]> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:[email protected]>
