Mike thanks so very much for this clarification - it is truly welcome as I, from my lack of any scientific training was starting to get angry - in my book there is nothing like experience for teaching - my recent experience with the Chickenguyna virus is that CS could not and did not do the trick, - I got it badly after it appeared my body was out of fight - if like the herpes virus - it lives in the body where it has decided to lodge itself then this explains the continual inflammation and stiff painful joints I and others are experiencing- continuing to take my normal daily intake of CS will eventually work as it appears to have done for me in the case of herpes which I have suffered with from time to time over some fifty years - I am investigating whether taking any of the known helpers will do any good at this point of time as the virus is already lodged - who knows only time can and will tell - over time I have done all the other modalities to work on the herpes virus and none have killed it outright - they have all more than likely worked together to extend the time between out breaks however I would be kidding myself to say it has finally given up - my last outbreak now being four years. So working on this assumption I ask myself will I have to endure the residue of the Chickenguyna for another four - which my research has told me is the time the virus stats in the body ? Not a nice future - so as a last resort it will be back to the mind for release from this scourge - gone to meditate - thanks whole heaps for confirming and clarifying what I had read for myself - I constantly tell others to become the captain of their own ship - I think I need to tell myself this very seriously Thanks I WILL be well / the same for you Cheers Sandeeš¬ Attitude is everything Alive Again Colloidal Silver Eye drops & Topical Gel [email protected]
On Nov 3, 2014, at 4:51 AM, Dee <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks Mike, that really explains things well. I read somewhere that viruses can also have a strand of RNA as well and are actually not organic at all. Have you heard of this? Dee Sent from my iPad > On 3 Nov 2014, at 02:07, M.G. Devour <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sandee wrote: >> ... my understanding is that a virus is NOT a pathogen, my >> understanding is that a pathogen is a single cell organism with no >> protection of any kind and does not hide anywhere for protection... > > Hi Sandee, > > Pathogen is a general term for any disease causing organism... > >> From Wikipedia (an adequate source in this case...): > >> A pathogen ... in the oldest and broadest sense is anything that can >> produce disease. Typically the term is used to mean an infectious >> agent (colloquially known as a germ) ā a microorganism, in the widest >> sense such as a virus, bacterium, prion, fungus or protozoan, that >> causes disease in its host. >> > So, it's the kind of word that distinguishes what ails you from toxins, > injury, nutrient deficiency, or autoimmune stuff, for a few examples. If > it's pathogenic in origin, it means you got infected somehow. > > So, you'll need to understand the biology of each of the general types > of pathogens and treat them as separate things in your mind. > > If you look up the above listed types of pathogen you'll get a > description of what each one is and does... > > Just off the top of my head... > > Virus: A strand of DNA, possibly with an additional sheath of protein, > but no cell wall or protoplasm (gooey stuff inside a cell). It's pretty > much a simple piece of protein that happens to be able to sneak into a > host cell and trick it into using the cell's own reproductive apparatus > to reproduce the *virus*. It is not a cell, in and of itself. It's much > smaller than a cell and needs a living cell to serve as a host. > > Bacterium: single celled organism with (usually) a cell wall, cell > membrane, nucleus containing DNA, and other internal structures along > with protoplasm (aforesaid gooey stuff). There are a handful of general > types, determined mostly by their shape under the microscope: cocci > (round) bacilli (bar or rod shaped), spirochete (spiral shaped). They're > generally on the same order of size as many types of cells or often > somewhat smaller. They can themselves be infected by viruses! > > And so on for prions, fungi or protozoa... In this case, wikipedia can > be your friend. They'll at least get these basic definitions right. > >> ... why CS without any carrier can kill by itself > > We know that it can and does, provided it can get to the germs causing > the problem. A carrier like DMSO might help silver get past membranes > into cells, or the spaces between cells, or into mucus... anyplace that > pathogens might set up housekeeping and silver might normally be slower > or prevented entirely from penetrating. > > Other treatments you might try alongside silver may do different things > and their effectiveness might combine favorably... but it might not be > correct to call them "carriers" if that's not what they're actually > doing. There might be synergy where the effect is greater than the sum > of the parts, or their effects might just add together simply and leave > you no way of knowing how much is because of which thing you're doing... > Not altogether a bad thing so long as you're getting better, but not as > informative as careful testing would be. > > Anyway, I hope there is a little clarity for you in all of that. You > just have to get ahold of the pieces of the subject and make them fit > together for you. Nothing takes the place of understanding, and that > usually depends on some brute force studying to cram the bits and pieces > into your brain. <smile> > > Be well, > > Mike D. > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > Unsubscribe: > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:[email protected]> > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:[email protected]> > > ____________________________________________________________ CPAP Alternative There are alternatives to CPAPs. Will an oral appliances work for you? http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/54577c6f1a53d7c6d0f51mp06vuc
