LOL...No worries Victor, but I have to say my statement *is* an absolute, to me
anyway. There is a major distinction/difference between the human mental
processes and the mental processes of an animal or a bird or an insect {if
insects do indeed have what could be called a brain}.
Is it the Mayfly that only lives for a day in adult form? They come into this
world, do their business to perpetuate the species, then leave this world. I
doubt they do much thinking about anything, it's an instinctive inbuilt
primeval drive that's all, no thinking involved. Example, all the
aforementioned would not consider attitude or personality or character traits
or whatever from one to the next, they just "are" and they just seek and
conquer. Hmmmm, thinking about that prompts me to add that it's a little like
some humans in that regard I guess <g>.
I was just pointing out that humans, well some humans, have a need to believe
in something {I won't go any further with that <g>} whereas four legged
animals, birds and insects etc don't have a belief in anything, they just are
and act accordingly, only intelligence can create the desire to "believe" in
anything. Stresses and a miriad other things wouldn't enter their "thinking"
processes as it does the human species in the creation of cancer for example.
I agree, we as humans can instigate and/or perpetuate health issues for one
reason or another, but I seriously doubt that occurs in nature. I don't think
the "I think therefore I am" applies to nature, they just "am". Sure, animals
and birds, not so insects, could be taught something on a human level, as
limited as that would be, but we as a species don't necessarily need to be
"taught" anything, us being taught is only to maintain social cohesion or
instil social values etc, control in other words, but we would still have the
capacity to think for ourselves on a conscious level without being taught
anything, not so with the aforementioned.
Just the way I personally look at the world, I think therefore I am because I
understand the life process. I understand where I came from, I understand
where I have been, I understand where I am and I understand where I am going
eventually, I doubt any of these would be a consideration for animals etc etc
<g>. Intelligence vs instinct. We may understand how to prolong life for
example, nothing else understands that, they are born, they "are", then they
leave.
N.
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 13:18:23 +0900
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Hi Neville, Dave,
I would have to take issue with your statement that 'thought does not have
anything to do with anything.' We are far past the 'voodoo' and 'magic' stigma
at this point. Fields of science such as PNI (Psychoneuroimmunology) are well
established on a firm bed of experimental results. Not to mention all the
things happening in epigenetics. There is no question that our state of mind
has a direct impact on our health.
We are more than mere machines. Food for thought: One of the most shocking
displays of the power of the mind is found in those that suffer from split
personality disorder. There are cases when one personality emerges, and
instantly changes the eye color of the individual, causes scars to emerge on
the body, and other radical physiological changes. And it all changes back when
that persona changes.
A more romantic example is the link between two people in two different faraday
cages. I'll save that for another time, if anyone is interested. Of course you
can google such things.
I don't think you guys meant to sound so absolute, but I did not want to leave
those comments hanging out there. And I thought this might be interesting to
some people.
Victor
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Neville <[email protected]> wrote:
Humans are the only animals that have the power to think and reason,
animals/reptiles/insects etc etc just do what they do by instinct without
thinking or reasoning anything. Animals are prone to cancer so it doesn't
follow that thought has anything to do with anything, however, if it makes
people feel better or more positive about things then that's fine, let's face
it, people need 'something' to believe in, animals etc don't need to believe in
anything, they just are.
Barry Lynes book "The Cancer Cure that Worked" explains the cancer virus and
how it has the ability to morph into different shapes/forms. For decades the
"experts?" considered only one form of cancer, {monomorhic}, back in the 30's
Rife and I believe Kendall proved this is not so, cancer virus is pleomorphic
{changes shape/form}, and this is probably why so many cancers are missed
early, because they don't know what to look for, and because you can't tell
todays "experts?" anything they are probably still stuck in their Prehistoric
thinking and in complete denial.
It's a war out there today between those who truly understand research {they
are pretty much an extinct species today} and those funded by a particular
funding body who pay researchers to provide acceptable answers.
Independant thinkers, those who have not and will not be conditioned and
institutionalised by the system are a dying breed and are becoming more and
more ostracised and ridiculed by the general public. If one doesn't 'toe the
establishment line' then one will be forced to toe the line by
legislation/coercion/emotional blackmail/guilt etc.
N.
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:14:05 -0800
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer being a virus
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
There is a theory that Cancer is accomplished by cells that normally die when
new replacements are formed, fail to do so, thereby a doubling of cells at a
given location.
Called Apoptosis I believe or something like that.
Would explain why it occurs in animals and has nothing to do with thought.
Dave
