So, Brooks, thank  you for sharing your results.  Your electron microscope
runs seem to confirm what David Metcalf maintains: i.e. that the regardless
of the temp, voltage, or waveform that as long as your making silver via the
electrolysis method, the particle size remains constant.

I also am concerned about generating silver chloride when using salt in the
distilled water. Colloidal silver is one thing, silver chloride is a
compound, which apparently is at least slightly soluable in water. Metcalf
maintains that the silver chloride doesn't matter, but I am not so sure.
After all, we are drinking battery electrolyte to consume colloidal silver.
I know, semantics.  Does anyone have any thoughts on whether the silver
chloride is harmfull?  I would hate to seem some study come out in about
five years that proves that long term consumption of silver chloride
produces (some horror story), insert here. What can you do.

Smile,

Jeff

Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: BROOKS BRADLEY <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Particle size


>                            To all interested list members.  I have been
>reluctant to enter this discussion, but since we have some actual,
objective
>data on this issue, I will break my covenant of silence.  I do this knowing
that
>many on the list do not possess the discretionary funds required to have
>multiple electron microscope runs performed (@ $120.00 each).  In 1997 we
had a
>number of specimens examined under electron microscopy, at an independent
>laboratory.  Among these were 27 vdc (using batteries),  36 vdc
(regulated ), 28
>vdc (regulated power supply),  18 vdc (reg. pwr supply),  12 vdc (reg.pwr.
>supply),  10,000 vac,  1000 vac;  generated using COLD (35 DEGREES  F..),
ROOM
>TEMP  (80 DEGREES F.), and HOT (180 DEGREES F.).  ALL RESULTS were so
similar,
>that NO visible differention was possible.....using the unaided human eye.
>since the magnification was in excess of 100K, most of the discussion
is---at
>least to us---moot.
>                        I do not mean to be confrontational/adversarial in
this
>matter.  These are just our findings.  Others may have data which
contravenes
>ours.  If so, I would be most appreciative of receiving their commentary.
>                        Sincerely.  Brooks.
>Jeff Gilman wrote:
>
>> Mark Metcalf of Silver Solutions says that its impossible to change the
>> particle size. That the laws of electrochemistry prove that the particle
>> size remains constant regardless of the voltage, temp of the water, etc.
I
>> would like to get this issue settled once and for all.  Can anybody point
me
>> to any references which will prove or disprove this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jeff
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Katarina Wittich <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 12:44 PM
>> Subject: CS>Re: Bil, boiling water.
>>
>> >Hi Bil,
>> >so , I have two questions.
>> >Doesn't heating the water increase particle size? As the particles bump
>> into
>> >each other and agglomerate and make cs faster but bigger particles?
>> >
>> >And how do you boil water in a glass jar without it breaking? What kind
of
>> >jar? I looked for glass kettles in the store but didn't find anything.
>> >Thanks,
>> >katarina
>> >
>> >
>> >> I have been making CS for some time.  I started out
>> >> with a 16 oz. jar and was told to use boiling hot
>> >> distilled water and no salt to have the smallest particle
>> >> size.
>> >>
>> >> Now I use a gallon jar.  The distilled water I buy here
>> >> in California always tests below 2 ppm.  I boil the
>> >> water in a very clean glass pot.  If I use cold water the
>> >> CS process takes forever.  Also no matter how much
>> >> I limit the current (as low as 2 mA) the cathode always
>> >> gets very thick with sludge.  This is my setup:
>> >>
>> >> One gallon glass jar (clean)
>> >> Plastic lid
>> >> 99.99% silver, 1" x 3.5" (wetted)
>> >> Food grade stainless steel, 1" x 8" (wetted)
>> >> Stainless steel bolts and nuts (on lid)
>> >> Electrodes spaced 1/2" apart
>> >> 30 volts DC
>> >>
>> >> Some of you guys are using 120 volts AC rectified and
>> >> filtered to produce ~170 volts DC.  How much current
>> >> are you running?  What is the advantage?
>> >>
>> >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon
>> >> without the sludge using low voltage?
>> >>
>> >> Thank you very much for your replies.
>> >>
>> >> Bil
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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