They are saying that when silver leaves the electrode is it always the same
size, independent of temperature and current.  I believe this is likely correct,
since it appears that this is the case when we have varied different parameters
for the very first silver that comes off.  That is not what I am saying, I am
saying that the resulting product will have larger particles with increased
temperature, current and PPM.

Basically what we have is lots of particles which repel each other.  They bounce
around depending on temperature and to some extent current.  If two particles
hit each other they will stick together making a particle equal to twice their
mass.  There is an upper limit on how many particles you can have in any
quantity of water, and that upper limit is set by temperature and to some extent
current.  For instance, we are producing 5 ppm of colloidal silver in our unit.
We found we could run 25 mA without undue aggregation at room temperature, but
when we increased the current to 100 Ma, we had to drop the temperature to 32 F
to prevent aggregation.  If we try to run 10 ppm, we have to drop the current to
about 50 mA, even at 25 F to maintain particle size.

Marshall

Jeff Gilman wrote:

> So, what your saying conflicts directly with what Dave Metcalf says and what
> Brooks says.. that the particle size does not vary.  So who is right?  You
> all have convincing
> arguments.
>
> Jeff
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marshall Dudley <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Date: Thursday, December 02, 1999 11:37 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Particle size
>
> >It is not difficult to prove.  Take some clear CS and boil it and watch the
> >color change from clear to gold, to orange to red.  It is well known fact
> that
> >the color reflects differences in particle size.  This can be done without
> even
> >using a spectrophotometer.
> >
> >Marshall
> >
> >Jeff Gilman wrote:
> >
> >> Mark Metcalf of Silver Solutions says that its impossible to change the
> >> particle size. That the laws of electrochemistry prove that the particle
> >> size remains constant regardless of the voltage, temp of the water, etc.
> I
> >> would like to get this issue settled once and for all.  Can anybody point
> me
> >> to any references which will prove or disprove this?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Katarina Wittich <[email protected]>
> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 12:44 PM
> >> Subject: CS>Re: Bil, boiling water.
> >>
> >> >Hi Bil,
> >> >so , I have two questions.
> >> >Doesn't heating the water increase particle size? As the particles bump
> >> into
> >> >each other and agglomerate and make cs faster but bigger particles?
> >> >
> >> >And how do you boil water in a glass jar without it breaking? What kind
> of
> >> >jar? I looked for glass kettles in the store but didn't find anything.
> >> >Thanks,
> >> >katarina
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> I have been making CS for some time.  I started out
> >> >> with a 16 oz. jar and was told to use boiling hot
> >> >> distilled water and no salt to have the smallest particle
> >> >> size.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now I use a gallon jar.  The distilled water I buy here
> >> >> in California always tests below 2 ppm.  I boil the
> >> >> water in a very clean glass pot.  If I use cold water the
> >> >> CS process takes forever.  Also no matter how much
> >> >> I limit the current (as low as 2 mA) the cathode always
> >> >> gets very thick with sludge.  This is my setup:
> >> >>
> >> >> One gallon glass jar (clean)
> >> >> Plastic lid
> >> >> 99.99% silver, 1" x 3.5" (wetted)
> >> >> Food grade stainless steel, 1" x 8" (wetted)
> >> >> Stainless steel bolts and nuts (on lid)
> >> >> Electrodes spaced 1/2" apart
> >> >> 30 volts DC
> >> >>
> >> >> Some of you guys are using 120 volts AC rectified and
> >> >> filtered to produce ~170 volts DC.  How much current
> >> >> are you running?  What is the advantage?
> >> >>
> >> >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon
> >> >> without the sludge using low voltage?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you very much for your replies.
> >> >>
> >> >> Bil
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
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