Marshall, and "coyote", there is a product on the market - also produced chemically - one of the finest colloids we've seen. But it has a pH of 3.1, effectively a mild acid. However it is free of any ionic attribute, a pure colloid! I suggested that we bring it up to pH normal and have a look.... it then formed crystal structures up to several hundred nm. Cannot even begin to fathom the reaction in vivo, but certainly are not going to find out.... Stephen ----- Original Message ----- From: Marshall Dudley <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:52 AM Subject: Re: cs strength
> coyote wrote: > > > ##Slightly off subject but may be enlightening.... > > > > There is a company near me that manufactures CS by the 55 gallon drum, > > sold bulk to repackagers. I visited and asked questions. They do not use > > and electrical process but something called a "Precipitate method". The > > person i spoke to was very closed mouth about it. The CS was a very deep > > bright yellow, almost iridescent [ viewed through a half inch clear > > plastic tube] and was stored in what looked like a blue plastic pickle > > barrel like the local Mount Olive pickle company uses. > > > > The precipitate method is what was used in the 30's. It is the least expensive > method, and produces an inferior, possibly toxic, product. > > Here is how it works. You start with a salt of silver, most likely silver > nitrate, then add a base to it, such as sodium hydroxide (aka lye, draino). > The two react producing silver particles and sodium nitrate. > > There are several problems with this. First you now have sodium nitrate in the > sol, which ends up in the final material, or other processes must be used to > remove it. Total remove is highly unlikely. Also silver nitrate can still > remain, and this can cause argyria and is considered a poison. If too much lye > is added, then there will be traces of what is basically drano in there as > well. > > Added to this is that the particles are not charged up positively like in the > electrolytic process, then they will quickly aggregate and produce larger > particles, plus without the charge, they lose a lot of effectiveness. > > Thus you end up with a product which has reduced effectiveness, reduced > stability, increased toxicity, and the possibility of it causing argyria. But > it is very cheap to make this way. > > Typical of big companies, damn the product, make it as cheap as possible. No > wonder they are closed mouthed about it. > > Marshall > > > > > > > I recently sold a generator to a woman who attempted to use [deep bright > > yellow] commercial CS in her eyes. She said it irritated them badly whereas > > the CS from the generator did not. She washed her shower curtains with the > > commercial stuff. > > Does anyone know anything about the 'precipitate method' of making CS? > > This local company sends out drum after drum of this. I wonder how much of > > what's available in stores is this very same product repackaged. > > KD'C > > > > At 06:56 AM 4/6/00 -0700, you wrote: > > >Hello, > > > > > >I am new to CS and this list. I got a prett serious > > >burn, and a book I have suggested applying CS > > >topically. I bought some at the local health food > > >store (not knowing anything about it), and what I got > > >is 1100 ppm (manufactured by Innovative Natural > > >Products). I tried applying this to the area, and it > > >seemed to worsen, so I stopped. I have continued to > > >take a small amount internally. > > > > > >since beginning my research into CS on the web, I see > > >that most of you use a much weaker solution. Is 1100 > > >way too strong? (it is a dark yellow color). Is this > > >safe to apply topically to my burn? > > >any advice would be much appreciated! > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > >Do You Yahoo!? > > >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > >http://im.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > >[email protected] -or- [email protected] > > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > >
