Gee, that sounds like they produced silver nitrate with nitric acid, and the
product has both in it now.

I don't believe it is possible to have a ph of other than 7 without an ionic
attribute is it?

Marshall

Stephen Quinto wrote:

> Marshall, and "coyote",
> there is a product on the market - also produced chemically - one of the
> finest colloids we've seen.  But it has a pH of 3.1, effectively a mild
> acid.  However it is free of any ionic attribute, a pure colloid!  I
> suggested that we bring it up to pH normal and have a look....  it then
> formed crystal structures up to several hundred nm.  Cannot even begin to
> fathom the reaction in vivo, but certainly are not going to find out....
> Stephen
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Marshall Dudley <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: cs strength
>
> > coyote wrote:
> >
> > >  ##Slightly off subject but may be enlightening....
> > >
> > >   There is a company near me that manufactures CS by the 55 gallon drum,
> > > sold bulk to repackagers.  I visited and asked questions.  They do not
> use
> > > and electrical process but something called a "Precipitate method".  The
> > > person i spoke to was very closed mouth about it.  The CS was a very
> deep
> > > bright yellow, almost  iridescent [ viewed through a half inch clear
> > > plastic tube] and was stored in what looked like a blue plastic pickle
> > > barrel like the local Mount Olive pickle company uses.
> > >
> >
> > The precipitate method is what was used in the 30's.  It is the least
> expensive
> > method, and produces an inferior, possibly toxic, product.
> >
> > Here is how it works.  You start with a salt of silver, most likely silver
> > nitrate, then add a base to it, such as sodium hydroxide (aka lye,
> draino).
> > The two react producing silver particles and sodium nitrate.
> >
> > There are several problems with this.  First you now have sodium nitrate
> in the
> > sol, which ends up in the final material, or other processes must be used
> to
> > remove it.  Total remove is highly unlikely.  Also silver nitrate can
> still
> > remain, and this can cause argyria and is considered a poison.  If too
> much lye
> > is added, then there will be traces of what is basically drano in there as
> > well.
> >
> > Added to this is that the particles are not charged up positively like in
> the
> > electrolytic process, then they will quickly aggregate and produce larger
> > particles, plus without the charge, they lose a lot of effectiveness.
> >
> > Thus you end up with a product which has reduced effectiveness, reduced
> > stability, increased toxicity, and the possibility of it causing argyria.
> But
> > it is very cheap to make this way.
> >
> > Typical of big companies, damn the product, make it as cheap as possible.
> No
> > wonder they are closed mouthed about it.
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >  I recently sold a generator to a woman who attempted to use [deep
> bright
> > > yellow] commercial CS in her eyes. She said it irritated them badly
> whereas
> > > the CS from the generator did not.  She washed her shower curtains with
> the
> > > commercial stuff.
> > >  Does anyone know anything about the 'precipitate method' of making CS?
> > > This local company sends out drum after drum of this.  I wonder how much
> of
> > > what's available in stores is this very same product repackaged.
> > >  KD'C
> > >
> > > At 06:56 AM 4/6/00 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >Hello,
> > > >
> > > >I am new to CS and this list.  I got a prett serious
> > > >burn, and a book I have suggested applying CS
> > > >topically.  I bought some at the local health food
> > > >store (not knowing anything about it), and what I got
> > > >is 1100 ppm (manufactured by Innovative Natural
> > > >Products).  I tried applying this to the area, and it
> > > >seemed to worsen, so I stopped.  I have continued to
> > > >take a small amount internally.
> > > >
> > > >since beginning my research into CS on the web, I see
> > > >that most of you use a much weaker solution.  Is 1100
> > > >way too strong? (it is a dark yellow color).  Is this
> > > >safe to apply topically to my burn?
> > > >any advice would be much appreciated!
> > > >
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