## Still not so hot, ey? As much as I dislike regulation, it seems that a proper element in accurate labeling should include the process type. For instance: electro-colloidal and precipitate colloidal. KD'C
At 04:33 PM 4/7/00 -0400, you wrote: >Marshall, and "coyote", >there is a product on the market - also produced chemically - one of the >finest colloids we've seen. But it has a pH of 3.1, effectively a mild >acid. However it is free of any ionic attribute, a pure colloid! I >suggested that we bring it up to pH normal and have a look.... it then >formed crystal structures up to several hundred nm. Cannot even begin to >fathom the reaction in vivo, but certainly are not going to find out.... >Stephen >----- Original Message ----- >From: Marshall Dudley <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:52 AM >Subject: Re: cs strength > > >> coyote wrote: >> >> > ##Slightly off subject but may be enlightening.... >> > >> > There is a company near me that manufactures CS by the 55 gallon drum, >> > sold bulk to repackagers. I visited and asked questions. They do not >use >> > and electrical process but something called a "Precipitate method". The >> > person i spoke to was very closed mouth about it. The CS was a very >deep >> > bright yellow, almost iridescent [ viewed through a half inch clear >> > plastic tube] and was stored in what looked like a blue plastic pickle >> > barrel like the local Mount Olive pickle company uses. >> > >> >> The precipitate method is what was used in the 30's. It is the least >expensive >> method, and produces an inferior, possibly toxic, product. >> >> Here is how it works. You start with a salt of silver, most likely silver >> nitrate, then add a base to it, such as sodium hydroxide (aka lye, >draino). >> The two react producing silver particles and sodium nitrate. >> >> There are several problems with this. First you now have sodium nitrate >in the >> sol, which ends up in the final material, or other processes must be used >to >> remove it. Total remove is highly unlikely. Also silver nitrate can >still >> remain, and this can cause argyria and is considered a poison. If too >much lye >> is added, then there will be traces of what is basically drano in there as >> well. >> >> Added to this is that the particles are not charged up positively like in >the >> electrolytic process, then they will quickly aggregate and produce larger >> particles, plus without the charge, they lose a lot of effectiveness. >> >> Thus you end up with a product which has reduced effectiveness, reduced >> stability, increased toxicity, and the possibility of it causing argyria. >But >> it is very cheap to make this way. >> >> Typical of big companies, damn the product, make it as cheap as possible. >No >> wonder they are closed mouthed about it. >> >> Marshall >> >> >> >> > >> > I recently sold a generator to a woman who attempted to use [deep >bright >> > yellow] commercial CS in her eyes. She said it irritated them badly >whereas >> > the CS from the generator did not. She washed her shower curtains with >the >> > commercial stuff. >> > Does anyone know anything about the 'precipitate method' of making CS? >> > This local company sends out drum after drum of this. I wonder how much >of >> > what's available in stores is this very same product repackaged. >> > KD'C >> > >> > At 06:56 AM 4/6/00 -0700, you wrote: >> > >Hello, >> > > >> > >I am new to CS and this list. I got a prett serious >> > >burn, and a book I have suggested applying CS >> > >topically. I bought some at the local health food >> > >store (not knowing anything about it), and what I got >> > >is 1100 ppm (manufactured by Innovative Natural >> > >Products). I tried applying this to the area, and it >> > >seemed to worsen, so I stopped. I have continued to >> > >take a small amount internally. >> > > >> > >since beginning my research into CS on the web, I see >> > >that most of you use a much weaker solution. Is 1100 >> > >way too strong? (it is a dark yellow color). Is this >> > >safe to apply topically to my burn? >> > >any advice would be much appreciated! >> > > >> > >__________________________________________________ >> > >Do You Yahoo!? >> > >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >> > >http://im.yahoo.com >> > > >> > > >> > >-- >> > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal >silver. >> > > >> > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >> > >[email protected] -or- [email protected] >> > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> > > >> > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] >> > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >> > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >
