Thank you so much for your response.
I made a new batch of CS yesterday as I became ill---well, with vertigo.
The CS solution I made was the first I since getting on this list--thus,
the first solution I've made without salt(or even this year for that
matter). Just one problem: when I used salt(in the past), I saw an
immediate release from one of the wires(a light gray in color) and in time
the entire solution would become gray. That indicated to me to stop
processing for to go any further the solution would turn brown. Without
the salt there was no color this time--even after an hour or more(should
have paid attention to the timing--and temperature). I wondered if the
generator was working, but it was. I see it is suggested to have the
temperature between 80-100. I just heated the water up and went for it as I
knew I needed the solution right away. I drank some of the solution after
15 min. and again after 1/2 hr. I had to leave, but when I got home I drank
more of the solution after 1 hr. of processing. Actually, the vertigo was
gone after an hour had past from the first drink. Coincidence?--I don't
know. Interesting, today I became ill after eating(pretty sure it was
unrelated to the other day). Anyway, shortly after drinking the CS, my
symptoms were gone--totally. This is one way to find out if my batch was
any good--though it was clear(now I understand that it is okay and
preferred for solution to be clear--correct?).
What is my question now? I have 2 questions:
1. Does it matter if the water temperature is over 100 degrees?
2. How long should I run my generator to be sure I have a fairly potent batch?
I want to mention that after an hour or thereabout I checked the solution
and there was a dark brown to gray--I'd have to say it appeared
slimy--residue attached at the end of one of the wires. What was that and
what causes it--and is this a dtermining point at which I should decide to
turn off the generator?
PG
> Pam
> I started this ball so I guess I'll roll it for a moment.
> The only reason I recommend against utopia is because I've seen photos of
>what they call the very best quality CS and it appears to me to be the very
>worst then go on to bring a 'good guy' image in by saying they only do this
>so that their children will have the best...and now..they can share their
>good fortune.
> Well maybe it's true and they don't have a clue. Heck, I even sent them
>suggestions and simple circuit diagrams to improve their quality..no
response.
> Ken
>
>
>At 01:13 AM 7/11/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> >The only one I recommend against is the last...Utopia
>>
>> >You can make fairly good CS
>> >with such a unit but it takes a lot of care and experimentation. I doubt
>> >you will be able to go stronger than 3 to 5 PPM without making yellow to
>> >brown colored CS.
>>
>>What causes a particular CS maker to create brown sludge and not another?
>
>## Mostly 'runaway' [what Ivan said in another post] where the generator
>just accelerates out of control..because it has no controls at all..not
>even operator controls.
> Mind you, I don't know if brown CS is harmful, but I doubt it's as
>effective as a good clear CS or pale yellow. Personally, if I happen to
>make some brown stuff while experimenting, I fill a drain with it. [yuck]
>
>>Or is that a myth? I have 2 CS makers(only tried one so far). I do get
>>brown, but that is when I leave it running too long and I was using sea
>>salt(and distilled water).
>
>## Somehow some people think sea salt is better than an additive free pure
>salt. Think about how many heavy metals like mercury and chemicals are in
>sea water. Salt is simply not necessary anyway and may form odd chemical
>combinations in your CS.
>
>> I must have missed some crucial e-mails from the
>>list before I joined as I do not understand this. I don't want to start
>>anything here, but I sure would like a suggestion as to what is the best CS
>>maker(s) that people on this list have found(without bias and with
>>first-hand knowledge in relation to their experimentation, testing and and
>>final evaluation)---or has anyone purchased various makers and put them all
>>to the "test"? Is this a valid question and are there any correct answers
>>to this inquiry--or does it just not matter? From what I have read from
>>certain e-mails that have implied that the quality varies from generator to
>>generator---I just wonder if there is a significant difference.
>
>## Yes there is a big difference.
> "Voltage controlled/regulated/limited is BS...pure sales gimmick in a
>battery operated generator. Any battery is automatically voltage
>controlled, limited to it's rated output. That requires nothing extra at
all.
>"Current limited is a bit better but usually just prevents the generator
>from melting down if you short the rods together and does nothing at all
>for the CS process itself. This is done with a small light bulb or
>resistor. It will still 'runaway'
> "Current controlled" is a very good step and requires some know how to
>produce. IMO, these are the best and most fail safe, make the best CS with
>the most consistent smallest particles...AND prevents damage to the
generator.
> Stirring technique is a new thing on the scene and we're still hashing
>out exactly why it makes such a big difference. It seems to play a big
>part in even uncontrolled generators making very good CS as well as
>improving the performance of the more sophisticated ones too.
> The rest is basically bells and whistles for your convenience.
>
> The three I like best [and there are others that slip my mind right now]
>are Trems which he recently plugged, The new 777 at wishgranted.com and of
>course mine at silverpuppy.com.
> Of the bunch, Trems seems to have the edge with his new stirring device,
>wishgranted has more bells and whistles than mine but mine is the cheapest
>and does a darned good job and turns itself off when it's done like the
>others do but only has one setting. [You don't need a radio to drive] All
>are current controlled to 1 milliamp or less. All make the best CS for low
>voltage DC generators. Mine will run on many power sources besides the wall
>plug. Maybe Trems will too. I don't think the 777 will.
> Some people swear by High voltage generators and there are some good ones
>out there. I believe they are current controlled as well...and they are
>pretty pricey too. [Mostly geared for commercial production?]
>
>
>>Also, is there such a thing as a CS solution that does not lose its potency
>>over time? Does this vary from generator to generator? Or is that what
>>certain individuals on this list is trying to determine?
>
> ## Yes to all of the above.
> I'll hazard a guess that brown CS ain't "it" and nearly everyone on this
>list will agree?
> Ken
>
>
>>These are just some thoughts and questions off the top of my head--sorry if
>>I missed something and these questions are all redundant.
>>
>>Pam
>>
>>
>>
>> > While mechanical stirring does seem to get very good results, thermal
>> >stirring via convection currents helps a lot and is a lot simpler.
>> > Either preheat the water to 80 -100 degrees and let cool while running
>> >the generator, or start with room temp water and place it on a small
heater
>> >such as a 4 watt night light bulb.
>> > Letting hot water cool while in process tends to give that light Tyndal
>> >Effect but limits the max concentration [with my auto off unit] to about
>> >8-9 PPM as read by a PPM meter.
>> > Check out
>> >www.colloidal-silver.com
>> > and click on the merchants directory for a fairly complete list of
>> >generator makers.
>> > The only one I recommend against is the last...Utopia
>> > They are very proud of the brown sludge their generator makes for some
>> >reason. They use 3 nine volt batteries, 2 silver rods and nothing
else. I
>> >think they recommend using sea salt as well. A no no.
>> > With their set up, there's also a possibility of getting some lead and
>> >tin into the mix as the wires have exposed solder on the ends. Not
>> >extremely likely, but possible.
>> > You can do something similar for a lot less. You can make fairly
good CS
>> >with such a unit but it takes a lot of care and experimentation. I doubt
>> >you will be able to go stronger than 3 to 5 PPM without making yellow to
>> >brown colored CS.
>> > k...@czen
>> >
>> >At 03:28 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>Okay. What is the Tyndall effect? All I could find is that Tyndall(John)
>> >>was an Irish physicist. Also, where might one purchase a mechanism for
>> >>stirring?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >Is it John?
>> >> >
>> >> >Stirring really helps distribute the ionic cloud away from the anode
>> as the
>> >> >atoms are being released during production. If you can get them
>> disbursed
>> >> >in the water with stirring, they tend not to agglomerate. It makes a
>> much
>> >> >better product. It will be crystal clear with no color if you keep it
>> >> >under 15-20 PPM. Will also have a minimal Tyndall effect.
>> >> >
>> >> >Trem
>> >> >www.silvergen.com
>> >> >Constant Current Colloid Generators
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >At 03:02 PM 7/9/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >>Is stirring necessary?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >JO\ohn;
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Make your own genterator, all you need is a DC power source, a
>>digital
>> >> >> >multimeter, stirring motor, and two pieces of #14 sliver .999 or
>> >> better and
>> >> >> >some clip leads.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Contact me off list and I can probvide more detailed info.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Ole Bob"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
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