Well, Marshall has a cite or two handy.  Thank you; it goes into the file
now.

Koch's Principle (spelling? German, I think early microbiologist), a method
of demonstrating that a disease is caused by a certain substance or
organism, in which some of the allegedly infections material is taken from
one person, and stuck in another; and the same disease develops.  That has
never been done with HIV/ HIV virus.

Dr. Joel Wilner, an M.D. traveled the world lecturing about AIDS.  Part of
his shtick was to on-stage draw blood from a certified AIDS-positive
hemophiliac, (not necessarily a homophalliac) and shoot it up himself, right
in front of the audience. Same needle too, as if it matters.

He never developed AIDS, but I don't know if he went past the incubation
time limits.

He died a strange death from a heart attack that had the earmarks of having
been chemically induced.  He had no history of heart problems.

JOH


-----Original Message-----
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 11:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: CS>AIDS It is HIV - NOT!

"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

> Hello Coyote et al,
>
> Once again I apologize for not having the cite handy, but about 6 years
ago
> I read a study of terminal AIDS patients which demonstrated that with
about
> 50% of them the virus could not be found in the body.

There are lots of researchers that agree with us:

http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/group.htm
http://www.africa2000.com/CNDX/aidsvocs.htm
http://duesberg.com/kintro.html
http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/whistleblowers.htm
http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/index.htm
"If there is evidence that HIV causes AIDS, there should be scientific
documents
which either singly or collectively demonstrate that fact, at least with a
high
probability. There is no such document."
http://www.sumeria.net/aids/willner.html
Most of the medically supervised AIDS deaths were either caused or
contributed
to by the deadly drug AZT. In many cases it was given to perfectly normal
and
healthy individuals who were terrorized by fear from the AIDS media blitz
[CN --
or "blitzkrieg" perhaps?] into taking the phony HIV test. When a percentage
got
positive test results they were then given lethal doses of AZT, a drug that
was
shelved over 20 years ago because it was found to be too toxic to give to
terminally ill cancer patients.

http://www.sumeria.net/aids/whatif.html
Some important questions which need to be answered are:
          If HIV causes AIDS, why have thousands of AIDS victims never had
HIV?
          Why have hundreds of thousands who have had HIV for many years
remained perfectly healthy?
          Why does the co-discoverer of HIV now claim it cannot be the sole
cause of AIDS?
          Why has more than ten years of AIDS research costing tens of
billions
of dollars failed to show how (or even if) HIV causes AIDS or attacks the
immune
system?
          What if AIDS is not, in fact, caused by a virus?


http://aliveandwell-eugene.dreamhost.com/aidsgate/
WASHINGTON (Associated Press) - "New drugs helped reduce the number of
AIDS deaths in the United States by 47 percent last year...the lowest rate
since

1987."  (The reason is that the HIV drug AZT was discontinued!!!!)

And the benzene connection:

http://www.sumeria.net/aids/lubejob.html

Marshall


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