> -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Key [mailto:[email protected]]
> Ivan wrote: > > > Did you just insult me? The fact that I have decided to go back to > > university as a pharmacology undergraduate is neither here nor > there, you > > either accept my opinion or not. I don't mind which. And > remember that Dr > > Maass is not immune to error either. > > Not an insult, just a statement of fact. > > You are in fact a student who is currently taking or recently > just completed freshman chemistry. > > Dr. Maass is in fact a Professor of Chemistry with over 30 years > experience in both industry and academia. > > Whatever your experience and education, it is fair to say that in > the field of chemistry you are separated from Dr. Maass by light years. That does not make my opinions any less or more important than the information they contain. I am not asking you to modify your beliefs or in any way act differently, other than perhaps be a little more circumspect in the conclusions you draw. You asked me a question...I answered...If you believe me to be wrong, that is fine, its not the first time...I am open to persuasion, my opinions are not absolute. > While it is generally a true statement that no one is immune to > error, your reference above alludes to some error you believe Dr. > Maass has made. I am not aware of such an error on his part. Well, we had a discussion earlier about the anomalies that exist between the measured conductivity of 'colloidal silver'(about 35% high) and the conductivity of silver ions in other solutions as presented in accepted scientific tables. Dr Maass decided that this was due to the activity coefficient, which I had already calculated and taken into account. He subsequently corrected this error (via you, and you posted a graph to reflect negligible influence the activity coeffcient as drawn by him) and as a consequence this anomaly remains unresolved (I discounted your proposal that the published tables are wrong). My tentative theory of multi-ion particles or mixed atom and ion particles (jelium model) is the only explanation so far advanced that I know of (and sparked off another round of intense discussion!). > On the other hand, I am aware of the fact that Dr. Maass prepared > a brief techical paper to explain the proper use of "solubility > product" to correct the errors in your writings on the subject. > The paper titled "Solubility Products Involving Silver Compounds" > is posted on the web site at: > http://www.silver-colloids.com/Papers/papers.html >As I recall, according to your calculation, 16000 ppm of silver ions would >be imparted to water by merely placing metallic silver in the water. I have never said this, that would be ridiculous. I did say that if silver ions could be introduced into water with no complexing ions then the concentration could reach 0.15M or 16000ppm. And I also said that I do not have much experience with solubility products and was awaiting your corrections. This correction did not address the inclusion of silver ions to water and only advanced the calculation for the addition of AgOH(solid). You may want to revisit this with additional parameters: the OH- content remains constant or increases, and the silver is introduced as ions (is dissolved). My calculations are out, but I suspect so are yours. >In conclusion, you took as insult my statement of fact that I would respect >the opinion of Dr. Maass over your own opinion in the field of chemistry. >It is hard for me to believe that any reasonable person would make a >determination different than my own in this regard. I thought it a cheap shot...what if I had no formal education at all? >frank key Regards Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
