Jason is on the CS list along with several others with clinical experience.
Ken




At 07:55 AM 7/31/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Uh, Oh, Now I need intuition!  No wonder I have a problem, I've been hung up
>on chemistry!
>
>Back to the drawing board....or the lab!
>
>So, where is Jason to assist with the dose, mix recipe
>
>Barbara
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ode Coyote <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:48 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Intravenous CS
>
>
>>   If you want dose and mix specifics, you'd better ask Jason or one of the
>> other directly involved with the patient side of things.  I just make it.
>> [and , uh, sell generators to make it]
>>  My personal dose meter goes like this...
>>  Humm, feeling OK. Take sip and swish...ah STRONG stuff..one gulp or
>three?
>>  Glug.
>>  Umm, a bit off kilter today...glug glug glug.
>>  Got a cold? substitute CS for water and inhale as much as i don't get
>> bored with all day long.
>>
>>  If you'd die from water toxicity before reaching any sort of toxic dose
>of
>> silver [at under 50PPM], and a little does the job...what's to worry
>about?
>>  There's about a 5000 ft range for intuition to play around in.
>>  Caution says take a few days off now and then, whatever works is enough
>> and more than enough is not always better.
>>
>>  Ken
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 01:06 PM 7/30/02 -0500, you wrote:
>> >Ode Coyote,
>> >
>> >You are obviously VERY well educated on CS!  I agree on the generator
>aspect
>> >and regularly generate my own which I have consume copiously.  As the
>> >progressive dialogue has indicated though, what is the actual strength,
>ppm,
>> >particle size of any of our final product?  I did not know.
>> >
>> >Also, when looking to achieve a desired result, who is to determine what
>is
>> >realistic?  I decided 6 months of heavy  consumption of CS was not going
>to
>> >give me the desired results and that better was possible!
>> >
>> >Then too, I'm sort of squeamish about what I put in my veins.
>> >
>> >Another consideration I had was that my research told me that DMSO and
>> >heparin would be advantageous additives to mix with the infusion medium.
>> >Might be able to get sterile DMSO without a prescription from somewhere.
>> >However, the Heparin is a prescription item.
>> >
>> >There again, when it comes to putting it in the vein, I was not confident
>> >enough to trust my judgement on what ratio of the components was best.
>> >
>> >I am a nurse so I understand enough to know that a doctor must consider
>the
>> >CYA aspect.  Also, I liked the idea of having a doctor inhouse/onhand and
>> >prepared to intervene if necessary.
>> >
>> >Additionally, in my situation, I knew that my life was very definitely
>> >slipping away and the ball was going to remain in my court.  I made what
>I
>> >believed then and still believe was the right choice for me.  And I think
>> >that is what each of us is attempting to do, don't you.
>> >
>> >Could my own formula have worked as well?  Might have, but I did not have
>> >the comfort zone or confidence to take the chance.  So, I expended the
>> >$$$$'s for a product that I had researched and had confidence in.  The
>> >important thing is that I did get extraordinary results!
>> >
>> >Without a doubt, there are medicine professionals who are just out to
>make a
>> >buck, but I believe the doctor that treated me believed in the protocols
>he
>> >established for my condition.
>> >
>> >After three and a half years of getting progressively worse, and being a
>> >firm believer in the law of averages, I decided to go for it boldly with
>> >expectations of success rather than be in limbo wondering if and when the
>> >perfect formula would surface.
>> >
>> >Was my success story the result of a placebo effect, a fluke,  or a
>doctor
>> >who was thinking "out of the box"?  Could have been any of those, but I
>have
>> >faith in this doctor as a compassionate healer and because my instincts
>said
>> >to go for it.   My instincts have served me well over the years so I went
>> >into my treatment expecting good results.
>> >
>> >Now, I would appreciate you telling me your formula so I can tap into
>your
>> >knowledge!  I will continue to use CS for maintenance
>> >
>> >Once again, may I add that I have certainly learned a great deal from
>this
>> >forum. Thanks to yourself and many others for sharing information
>honestly
>> >and open.
>> >
>> >Respectfully,
>> >Barbara
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: d.linen <[email protected]>
>> >To: <[email protected]>
>> >Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 11:05 PM
>> >Subject: Re: CS>Intravenous CS
>> >
>> >
>> >> Ken,
>> >>
>> >> Your email is arriving from the 'future', November 29, 2002.
>> >>
>> >> d/
>> >>
>> >> Ode Coyote wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > The big advantage to making your own is, even if you lay out $150 for
>a
>> >well made generator or use some effort to construct your own for very
>> >little, it's a lot cheaper in the long run than anyones premade CS prices
>> >and quality can be as good as most..and better than some.
>> >> > If a $75 generator will make 30 gallons at 20 PPM and another 30
>gallons
>> >with the replacement of the electrodes for $10..you figure the difference
>> >between 120ccs at $50.
>> >> >
>> >> > With a bit of work, research and experimentation, you can do the same
>> >thing for around $15.
>> >> > The most costly part of colloidal silver is the water.
>> >> > Ken
>> >> >
>> >> > At 08:38 PM 7/28/02 EDT, you wrote:
>> >> > >>>>
>> >> >
>> >> >      In a message dated 7/27/2002 10:58:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >[email protected] writes:
>> >> >
>> >> >           <<The cost for Silver 400 from the manufacturer is $50 for
>120
>> >cc's. Cheaper for doctors and veterinarians.
>> >> >
>> >> >           If at first this cost seems excessive, please take into
>> >consideration that for instance, I started at 30 cc's and built up to 65.
>> >The oral maintenance dose is one quarter to one half tsp. daily.>>
>> >> >
>> >> >      How many teaspoons would be in the 50 dollars worth? Is the same
>> >silver taken orally and also by iv?
>> >> >      I imagine this silver is ionic since it's being injected.
>> >> >
>> >> >      For oral use, is this silver better than others? If one had to
>take
>> >a couple of tablespoons a day for a few months, I would like to know what
>it
>> >would cost per week.
>> >> >      My boyfriend has Hepatitis C and needs to start trying this, but
>> >there's no point in starting it if he can't keep it up due to cost.
>> >> >
>> >> >      Summer
>> >> >
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