Hi Ken,

The SG7 Pro makes 2 gallons or more an hour at 5 PPM....1 gallon at 10 PPM, 
etc.  I consider that pretty high speed for LVDC.   And of course it's always 
crystal clear at any strength up to 30 PPM.  Actually we have made it at 45 PPM 
and it's still clear after 18 months. 

You're right, we use lots of surface area.  About 60 square inches.

Trem


From: Ode Coyote 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 8:01 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>New CS generater


  16 oz batch, usually somewhere between 2 and 4 hours for 20-24 PPM and can be 
as high as 4 to 8 depending on water quality and which generator you get.
  That's probably a bit slow for commercial production which is why most 
commercial CS is HVAC or chemical precipitate or plain old runaway no control 
yellow brown LVDC crud.
  There are some generator makers that target resellers of CS...$300 to $3000. 
Do a lot of research before investing.

  Using huge electrodes could speed things up.
  Ken


  At 08:21 AM 9/13/02 -0500, you wrote: 
  >>>>

    Marshall,

    I'm getting the picture, but how slow is the LVDC?

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <mailto:[email protected]>Ode Coyote 
      To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
      Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:38 AM
      Subject: Re: CS>New CS generater

      They're all a little or a lot different depending on the setup and specs, 
but both processes can make a similar product. I think it's possible to make a 
higher colloid to ion ratio with HVAC "if" it's set up for that.
      LVDC is cheap, safe and slow. A good constant current unit can equal a 
good HVAC setup, much cheaper, only a lot slower.
      HVAC is very expensive, fast and can be deadly to operate.
      If it's not set up right, HVAC can make silver nitrates or emulsified 
sludge layers very very fast.
      If it is set up right, HVAC can do a very fine job.
      Ken

      At 10:54 AM 9/12/02 -0500, you wrote: 
      >>>>

        Marshall,

        O.K., Now that I understand that much, what makes one or the other 
better or worse in out final product>

        Thanks for taking the time to answer.

        Barbara

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: <mailto:[email protected]>Marshall Dudley 
          To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
          Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 6:43 PM
          Subject: Re: CS>New CS generater

          LVDC is low voltage direct current. Normally the voltage is between 9 
and 30 volts, and the voltage does not change polarity, or if it does, it does 
so at no faster than a couple of times a minute. 

          HVAC is high voltage alternating current. Nominally usually around 
10,000 volts, and 60 hertz frequecy. 

          Marshall 

          Barbara Liles wrote: 

            I haven't been on this long, but need to know the difference 
between LVDC and HVAC. I think that is what I keep reading. I anyone responds, 
could you keep it simple. I don't understand electricity not charging very 
well! Thanks 

              ----- Original Message -----
              From: <mailto:[email protected]>Jack Dayton
              To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
              Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:21 PM
              Subject: Re: CS>New CS generater



                From: "mary lee gladieux" 
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> 
                Subject: CS>New CS generater 
                Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:14:58 -0700 

                I'm a newbie to this board with this problem: with my brand new 
colloid master 777, I tried to generate one quart of approx 10 ppm CS but after 
23 hours the process never completed so I shut the processor off. I attempted 
this on the 9th and 10th of this month. Is this huge amount of time normal to 
make CS? Did anyone else experience this on those dates? Thank you for any 
response. 


              ************************************ 
              Hi Mary Lee, 

              I'm not familiar with that generator, but 
              that time is WAAAAY to long. 

              On my LV/DC I do 42ozs of distilled water 
              plus a spike of 2 oz from my last batch just 
              to get things started. It is usually finished 
              in one and one half hours. 
              23 hours ?, something is not right. First 
              reread the instructions carefully, because 
              that time is WRONG! 

              Jack



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