I'm sure you have a goal in mind when you start making a batch.  Are you 
testing with a meter at intervals and what ppm are you shooting for.  What 
color is it?

I have had a variety in colors from clear to golden.  Also have had sludge in a 
batch that was golden.

Obviously I'm not real sure about what I am trying to get!

Can you help me here and I will quit asking petty questions.  Since I am 
relatively new at this, I would like to have some idea of my product so I can 
make a determination about what I've got.  For instance, I want to know what my 
golden CS is good or is the golden with sludge useable and how to rate them in 
my own mind.  I guess you could say I am looking for a standard.

While it has been said at intervals that the end product will always have 
value, I'm looking to determine  if I am making better CS, worse CS and if it 
isn't good, what do I need to do different?

Thanks Again,
Barbara
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marshall Dudley 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 5:25 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>New CS generater


  You will have to ask others on this list, I use HVAC. But from reading here 
it seems that it can take from 20 minutes to a couple of hours to make 8 oz. I 
make about 3.5 gallons an hour with HVAC and 4 neon sign transformers and a 3 
ton water cooling unit. 
  Marshall 

  Barbara Liles wrote: 

    Marshall, I'm getting the picture, but how slow is the LVDC? 
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Ode Coyote
      To: [email protected]
      Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:38 AM
      Subject: Re: CS>New CS generater
       They're all a little or a lot different depending on the setup and 
specs, but both processes can make a similar product. I think it's possible to 
make a higher colloid to ion ratio with HVAC "if" it's set up for that. 
      LVDC is cheap, safe and slow. A good constant current unit can equal a 
good HVAC setup, much cheaper, only a lot slower. 
      HVAC is very expensive, fast and can be deadly to operate. 
      If it's not set up right, HVAC can make silver nitrates or emulsified 
sludge layers very very fast. 
      If it is set up right, HVAC can do a very fine job. 
      Ken 
      At 10:54 AM 9/12/02 -0500, you wrote: 
      >>>> 

        <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Marshall, 
        <?/smaller><?/fontfamily> 
        <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>O.K., Now that I understand that 
much, what makes one or the other better or worse in out final product> 
        <?/smaller><?/fontfamily> 
        <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Thanks for taking the time to 
answer. 
        <?/smaller><?/fontfamily> 
        <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Barbara 
        <?/smaller><?/fontfamily> 
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: <mailto:[email protected]>Marshall Dudley 
          To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
          Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 6:43 PM 
          Subject: Re: CS>New CS generater 
          LVDC is low voltage direct current. Normally the voltage is between 9 
and 30 volts, and the voltage does not change polarity, or if it does, it does 
so at no faster than a couple of times a minute. 

          HVAC is high voltage alternating current. Nominally usually around 
10,000 volts, and 60 hertz frequecy. 

          Marshall 

          Barbara Liles wrote: 

            <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I haven't been on this long, 
but need to know the difference between LVDC and HVAC. I think that is what I 
keep reading.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I 
anyone responds, could you keep it simple. I don't understand electricity not 
charging very well!<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> <?fontfamily><?param 
Arial><?smaller>Thanks<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> 
              ----- Original Message ----- 
              From: <mailto:[email protected]>Jack Dayton 
              To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
              Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:21 PM 
              Subject: Re: CS>New CS generater 
                
                 
                From: "mary lee gladieux" 
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> 
                Subject: CS>New CS generater 
                Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:14:58 -0700 
                <?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I'm a newbie to this board 
with this problem: with my brand new colloid master 777, I tried to generate 
one quart of approx 10 ppm CS but after 23 hours the process never completed so 
I shut the processor off. I attempted this on the 9th and 10th of this month. 
Is this huge amount of time normal to make CS? Did anyone else experience this 
on those dates? Thank you for any response.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> 
                 

              ************************************ 
              Hi Mary Lee, 
              I'm not familiar with that generator, but 
              that time is WAAAAY to long. 

              On my LV/DC I do 42ozs of distilled water 
              plus a spike of 2 oz from my last batch just 
              to get things started. It is usually finished 
              in one and one half hours. 
              23 hours ?, something is not right. First 
              reread the instructions carefully, because 
              that time is WRONG! 

              Jack

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