Nine volt batteries can make something you can use if you're careful. It
will run away VERY fast and unpredictably or just sit there and do little
for quite a while due to small differences in the water conductivity.
 Without any way to moniter or control the current, the difference in
batches using 1 ppm water and 6 ppm water , run the same amount of time
will be enormous.
 If running for 5 minutes in 1 ppm water gets you 5 PPM, running for 5
minutes in 6 PPM water will get you something like 625 PPM sludge.

Constant voltage devices [like batteries] run in a exponential manner and
there's no way in h.e.double hockysticks to time a batch accurately [ppm
per minute per minute like an accelerating falling object in voltage
constant gravity] while controlling current makes the process linear. [ppm
per minute]
 It's like the difference between falling out of an airplane and flying one.
 Done right, you could go as high as 50 PPM [maybe more] and not even have
a yellow product, much less brown. [20-25 PPM is more a reasonable goal] 
Ken

At 02:40 PM 9/18/02 -0700, you wrote:
>I just started making some new Distilled water, and am
>finding that I am still getting the 2-6 ppm whatever
>it is WITHOUT using charcol.  I am now in the process
>of tyring another exp electrocution, to see if I can
>get my yellow water back.  It might also not be any
>contamination from the distiller, but the fact that I
>am running at room temp instead of chilled.  My first
>batch was non-charchol chilled water.  My guess is
>that  the reaction rates are slowly thus making a
>better product?  Some have suggested boiling the water
>then putting the elctrodes in.  I did this once and
>alos got black water, but was not sure of the purity
>of the distilled water so I will have to re-test this
>method
>
>
>
>
>--- Marshall Dudley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> "[email protected]" wrote:
>> 
>> > HI I recently tried making my collidal silver with
>> my
>> > 9V battery set, and ran everything the same except
>> > this time I filtered the distilled water with
>> charchol
>> > instead of just letting it drip into my glass
>> > container.  When I initally checked the ppm it was
>> > around 20 already without even using the
>> electrodes,
>> > which leaves me to conclude that the charchol was
>> > coming into the water as well?
>> >
>> > Well I ran it till I got an intial TDS reading of
>> 2
>> > ppm,hooked up my electrodes, and got brown ugly
>> water
>> > with black earth like junk coated on the bottom
>> and it
>> > looks just like the process when one is making a
>> > mirror, that type of greyish silver color no
>> yellow
>> > was produced. Any ideas what is going wrong.
>> 
>> yes, you contaminated the water with the charcoal. 
>> Think about it.  You
>> started with distilled water which was probably 1
>> ppm or better, then ran it
>> through an aggragate of chared wood, which contains
>> lots of impurities,
>> salts, minerals and so forth. I am surprised you
>> could get it down that low
>> after doing that.
>> 
>> Marshall
>> 
>> > I
>> > sampled the product and it doesnt set well causing
>> > disiness in the head etc, meaning there most be
>> some
>> > contaimination or by-products.
>> >
>> > Corbin
>> >
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