Hi Ken:

Another anion is used, quite possibly carbonate, a few people have even
hypothesized that the anion is nitrogen.

Best Regards,

Jason

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: CS>WaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate


> If 13 PPM is the max ionic silver content [assuming a relationship between
> cations and ions..same thing only charge specific, right?] and a PWT uS
> reading bears a relationship to the quantity and concentraion of those
> ions...how come I can get as high a stable reading as 78 uS on the PWT
when
> making CS?
>  Is it because there are not enough anions present in the water to
> 'discharge' the silver cations?
>  [78 uS is as high as I've gone and still produced a colorless CS but
> there's no reason I can see that I couldn't go higher.  TE at that reading
> is VERY strong indicating a total silver content probably beyond 150 PPM]
>
> Ode
>
>
> At 11:43 AM 9/6/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >Silver is a cation (+). For every cation there must be a companion anion
(-)
> >present in a solution so that the net charge is zero.
> >
> >Pure water will allow about 13 ppm of silver cations using hydroxide as
the
> >anion. Pure water supplies the hydroxide.
> >
> >If the goal is to make a concentration of  silver greater than 13 ppm,
then
> >some additional anions must balance the cations. The salt formed from
> >combining the cations and anions must form a water soluble compound.
Silver
> >citrate is one such water soluble compound. Other water soluble compounds
of
> >silver include silver nitrate and silver acetate.
> >
> >frank key
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jonathan B. Britten" <[email protected]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:37 AM
> >Subject: Re: CS>WaterOz Ionic Silver - Silver Citrate
> >
> >
> >> Do you have any idea of the logic behind adding the citric acid?   I am
> >> not a chemist and can not venture even an uneducated guess.  Is there
> >> any underlying logic apparent to a chemist?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, Sep 6, 2003, at 06:23 Asia/Tokyo, Frank Key wrote:
> >>
> >> > Ion Chromatograph has confirmed that citrate is the anion in WaterOz
> >> > Ionic
> >> > Silver.
> >> >
> >> > Silver citrate at a concentration of 100 ppm (WaterOz) can cause
> >> > argyria if
> >> > caution is not exercised in how much is consumed.
> >> >
> >> > Silver citrate can be produced by electrolysis by using  a "colloidal
> >> > silver
> >> > generator" of either HVAC or DC type design. By adding citric acid to
> >> > the DI
> >> > water before starting the process, citrate will become the companion
> >> > anion
> >> > when silver cations are added to the solution by electrolysis.
> >> >
> >> > The ph will be neutral when the silver cations balance the available
> >> > citrate
> >> > anions.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > frank key
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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