Hi Paul,
Are you saying that doing the nasal flooding is not recommended or 
that part of the procedure is not recommended??

I've tried something like that but could not escape getting the CS 
saline into my eyes when rolling over. So the idea of holding my 
nose to stop the leaks until ready to snort out should be good. I 
usually park a chair next to the bath and lie back over the edge of 
the bath.  Also I add a drop or two of lugols iodine to the solution.

Thanks,
Tony

On 15 May 2004 at 11:27, Paul Holloway wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> This might be a good place to mention my experiences with fungal
> sinusitis. Four years ago I developed severe sinusitis, with
> incapacitating pain, and other strange symptoms - a burning tingling
> numbness down both arms and legs, dizziness, nausea, and a horrible
> feeling in my head. My memory was shot and I felt extremely ill.
> Conventional doctors said there was no problem with my sinuses and
> suggested antidepressants.
> 
> I started doing nasal rinses with saline and my wife said she could
> smell mold coming from my sinuses. She then started to develop similar
> symptoms. I tried CS as a rinse with some success, but the main
> problem seemed to be above my eyes, in my frontal sinuses. The nasal
> rinsing was great at getting at my maxillaries (behind the cheekbones)
> and ethmoids (behind the top of the nose) but not the frontals. Then I
> came across a sinus flooding technique, which used a CS and saline
> mix. You lie on a bed with your head hanging off it backwards and
> filled the nose with the mix, and left it for 2-3 minutes, then turned
> over with your head hanging down forwards, holding the nose, and
> soaked for a further 2-3 minutes. Then you snorted it all out, waited
> 40 minutes and did it again (to remove loosened deposits). PLEASE NOTE
> THIS PROCEDURE IS NOT RECOMMENDED - I think it moves infection around
> the sinuses and into the eustachian tubes, especially the first part
> with the head backwards. This seemed to help a lot with the sinus pain
> and other symptoms.
> 
> Then I had a batch of CS that was left for too long and had turned a
> dark yellow-brownish colour. I didn't want to drink this, but thought
> I would try using it in the sinus flooding procedure. To my horror,
> some clumps of brown fibrous material came out of my nose, about a
> teaspoonful of it in clumps. Luckily I had a small microscope, and
> took a look. It was clearly fungus of some sort, with hyphae, fruiting
> bodies and hundreds of spores clearly visible. After comparing it to
> photos on the internet, the shape of the fruiting bodies and the size
> and shape of the spores, I concluded it was aspergillus fumigatus, a
> common pathogenic fungus. I worked in a pathology lab at the time, and
> sent off some of this material to the fungal lab. They cultured
> aspergillus fumigatus. By this time my wife was also washing similar
> material out of her nose.
> 
> Unfortunately my doctors still did not take this seriously, even
> though aspergillus is know to be a serious problem in some people. We
> continued washing this foul stuff out every day, and doing many
> alternative things to eliminate it, including a magnetic pulser, and
> after several months it seemed to have come to an end. We both have no
> more "fungal" symptoms but have been left with a susceptibility to
> bacterial infections in our sinuses, and impaired immune response.
> This is gradually resolving.
> 
> Anyway, I am pretty sure that dark CS stains aspergillus a brown
> color, and I suspect it may somehow dislodge the stuff from the
> sinuses. Silver is used as a fungal satin for microscopy, so I think I
> stumbled accidentally on a procedure that would both dislodge the
> stuff, and make it visible.
> 
> I would like to get someone else with aspergillus sinusitis to try
> this. I did join a list for aspergillus sufferers, but none of them
> was interested in trying any of my suggestions. I was constantly
> attacked by a man whose wife had aspergillus, who said that my
> suggestions were dangerous and wouldn't work and that CS would turn
> them all blue. Everyone seemed to believe him and carried on whining
> that their steroids and surgery were not working. Unbelievable.
> 
> Anyway, I hope this is of some help to those who suspect they may have
> a fungal infection. It might even prove useful as a diagnostic
> procedure.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Paul H
> 
> 
> 
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