Well, I do not have any fancy equipment, and I didn't even have high school chemistry, soI do not know most of the technical things you alo talk about. I can only tell you that for 1 1/2 years I made CS with a generator from CS Prosystems. I made some slo, but definate progress with my MS. When I began to add the H2o2 (which I learned about from this list, thank you)I began to heal a lot quicker. The people who have MS and began the CS with H202 right from the start seem to have gotten good reaction qicker than I did. I cannot explain why, but I can guarantee it works better. Nancy DeLise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Monett" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:45 AM Subject: Re: CS>H2o2
> Re: CS>H2o2 > From: Ode Coyote > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 07:12:34 > > > I think it was Nancy Delise that showed a micrograph of CS taken > > by a water treatment plant before and after adding peroxide that > > proves the case out. > > > Frank Key could run something definitive, if he were so inclined. > > > Ode > > Hi Ken, > > Those photographs raise a number of questions. > > 1. How do we know the shiny particles in the photos are made of > silver? It could be simple dust particles due to room air > contamination. > > 2. If the particles were indeed silver, how were they created? > Silver is insoluble in dw, as Frank Key went to extraordinary > lengths to discover. > > There is a slight possibility that silver crystals could be etched > from the surface of the electrode while the electrolysis process is > following a grain boundary. However, it is difficult to see how > electrolysis could work underneath a crystal, since it would shield > the electric field necessary to liberate silver ions. > > Perhaps your extensive experience in plating would give some > guidance. > > But in order to keep the chemical equations balanced, it is > difficult to see how pure silver can be created during electrolysis. > > The only source of electrons near the anode is the hydroxyl ion, > OH-. When it meets a silver ion, it creates silver hydroxide, which > is unstable and may covert to plain silver oxide. The same thing > happens at the cathode. This is the soft black or dark brown coating > everyone wipes off their electrodes. > > If the current density is low enough, silver ions can plate out at > the cathode. This is the source of the gray whiskers on the cathode > at the end of the brew. As you explained long ago, the silver atoms > enclose hydrogen bubbles to form the sludge. However, it is not > clear that Nancy's cs generator ran at low enough current for this > to occur. > > It is easy to tell the difference H2O2 has on silver oxide vs pure > silver. If you put a drop on your silver electrode and look at the > reaction under a microscope, you see tiny bubbles forming rather > slowly. > > If you evaporate several ounces of cs to form silver oxide/hydroxide > as I described in recent posts, then add H2O2, the reaction is much > faster. It bubbles and fizzes as it liberates oxygen. The result is > a clear solution of silver ions. > > Then, if you add salt, a very dense cloud of silver chloride is > produced. This shows the H2O2 converts the silver oxide/hydroxide > back to silver ions, and kept them separated. > > The reason I mention this is if the particles in Nancy's photos are > silver, it would take days or weeks to covert them to ions. The > reaction of H2O2 on pure silver is extremely slow. You can show this > yourself by making some silver sludge in your Silverpuppy, then > adding H2O2 to convert it to ions. The sludge particles will bubble > for a very long time, no matter how much H2O2 you add to the > solution. > > So I am not sure what the shiny particles in Nancy's photos are, but > I don't think they are silver metal. > > Best Wishes, > > Mike Monett > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >
