Yes that is what I was thinking of, plasitcizers. And I was under the impression that the hard plastic, like bottled water comes in, did not out gas the pasticizer. But come to think of it the hard plastic collection bottle that came with my counter top distiller did smell at first. I threw out the first few batches of distilled water that I made, until I could no longer smell it.
Having had MCS in the past I know that even minute amounts of a VOC can enter directly into brain tissue via the Trigeminal and Olfactory Cranial Nerves that run through the nasal septum. Even a very few molecules may affect someone with MCS and will contribute to the body's total load in anyone. Whether it is a significant contribution relative to the other exposures we have is a point of debate. When I collect distilled water from the distiller it comes out near boiling so it could be further drawing out any available plasticizer in the time that it is cooling. Hmmmm . . . what to do, that bottle fits the set up, an open vessel might allow too much of the steam to excape. Time to buy that larger stainless steel distiller I have had my eye on perhpas. Garnet On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 09:21, Marshall Dudley wrote: > It normally is not solvents. Normally what is outgassed from any plastic is > either > the monomer, or plasticizing agents. Soft plastics such as PVC will outgas > the > monomer such as vinyl chloride, and hard plastics that have a plasticizer > added to > them to make them soft will outgas the plasticizer. They are both especially > nasty, > usually both carcinogenic as well as immune suppressive. > > BTW, I have found that putting many plastics in the oven set to 150 F for 24 > hours > that is adding any taste to water or EIS will outgas pretty well all of it in > the > oven, and not do that after baking. > > Marshall > > Garnet wrote: > > > I was unaware of this. I was under the impression that only soft > > plastics outgassed their solvent. The thermoset plastics supposedly do > > not out gas anything. > > > > If this is true I would not use PET pastic. > > > > Garnet > > > > On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 22:36, Sally Khanna wrote: > > > Ever since Greenpeace told me that they release dioxin under light or > > > heat conditions, I'm afraid to use them (Pet plastic) too much. My > > > neighbor, who is a scientist checked it out and said it was true. > > > anyone have any comment? > > > > > > Sally > > > > > > Garnet <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I use PET bottles to collect the distilled water I make > > > because it fits > > > the set up. For my CS I do use half gallon glass canning jars. > > > I keep > > > the box they come in and store my CS in the boxes in the > > > pantry. That > > > way I always have it on hand for a high need situation and I > > > can also > > > share if someone I know gets sick. They cost $1.59 per jar at > > > my local > > > Ace Hardware, with six I get a box that stacks well and does > > > not take up > > > shelf space since I can put them on the pantry floor. I doubt > > > that PET > > > bottles are any cheaper, but they are lighter and have > > > handles. > > > > > > Garnet > > > > > > On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 16:07, Sally Khanna wrote: > > > > I have a question - why do many of you use PET plastic > > > bottles instead > > > > of glass to keep the CS in? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sally > > > > > > > > Dave and Gwlynda Irek wrote: > > > > T! hanks Bo for the reply. Your right I'm trying to make 20 > > > PPM > > > > - on the highest setting. I check every gallon of distilled > > > > water with my meter before I put it in the SilverGen and the > > > > average is 0.2 so I'm pretty sure my water is ok. I brought > > > > new PET plastic water jugs for the CS which I have used > > > since > > > > day one of making CS. I don't rinse them out between filling > > > > them with the next batch of CS - so they should not have any > > > > ozonation or minerals from tap water. I will try the next > > > > batch on the 12 o'clock setting and see what happens. > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for your help > > > > > > > > Gwlynda > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > > From: bbanever [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:37 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: CS> > > > > > > > > > > > > Gwlynda - There are two potential reasons for your yellow > > > > batches of CS. Firstly you are probably trying to make a > > > > batch in the 15 - 20ppm range. Try turning the dial down to > > > > 12 o'clock so you can make a 10ppm solution. This will > > > always > > > > be clear. Secondly your water may be contaminated.... make > > > > sure the container is clean and the water is only pure > > > > distilled water with no ozonation or minerals added. > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Dave and Gwlynda Irek > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 8:24 PM > > > > Subject: CS> > > > > > > > > I have been making CS with my SilverGen Pro 9 for > > > > about 2 months now. All my 5 gallon batches of CS has > > > > been clear until the last 2 - 5 gallons batches. The > > > > CS is yellow before I even get it out of the > > > > SilverGen. I turn the unit off as soon as it is > > > > finished and remove the silver and pump. Let the > > > > CS settle for a few m! inutes then pour it into a PET > > > > plastic water jug. Can someone tell me why my CS is > > > > turning yellow during and right after the unit turn > > > > off? > > > > > > > > Gwlynda > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > > From: Jim Holmes [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:27 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: RE: CS>question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Barrett is the quack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is no citation in the medical literature of > > > > electro-colloidal silver, made with pure silver and > > > > pure water, causing Argyria. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have personally tried to have a dialog with that > > > > duck, and he is not willing to have one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hulda Clark just successfully sued his ass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JOH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: sid aust > > > [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 8:19 PM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: CS>question... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am new to the forum and wondering what the side > > > > effects of taking CS. I just read one of Dr Barrett's > > > > article on how it will turn you grey and all kinds of > > > > bad stuff..and of course Dr Barrett is against > > > > everything good in alternative medicine..you can fine > > > > him on the quack forum... > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Sid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal > > > Silver. > > > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > > > http://silverlist.org > > > > > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > > Silver List archive: > > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > > > [email protected] > > > OT Archive: > > > http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. > >
