That would be it..and a wealth of information. I didn't find the specific reference to the 1/10th AgCl compared to ionic figure there this time around, just that ionic killed germs better than AgCl indicating that AgCl is active to some degree. Musta been from somewhere else. Too much stuff from too many places to keep track of.
Ode At 07:44 AM 11/10/2004 -0700, you wrote: >Hi, I think this may be the site and the study of which you speak (very >interesting I might add)... > >http://wlapwww.gov.bc.ca/wat/wq/BCguidelines/silver/ > >-James > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 6:13 AM >Subject: Re: CS>H202, CS and cloudiness > > >> I think it was just a mention on some Canadian version of an EPA site >> that went into various effects of industrial silver waste on fish and the >> environment. >> Don't recall exactly. >> The conclusion was that silver chloride did kill microbes, just not very >> well in comparison to several other forms of silver >> >> ode >> >> At 07:01 AM 11/10/2004 -0500, you wrote: >>>Re: CS>H202, CS and cloudiness >>>From: Ode Coyote >>>Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:15:00 >>>http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m74929.html >>> >>> > A study I read a while back stated that silver chloride in vitro >>> > has about 1/10th the killing power of ionic silver. The killing >>> > power of particulate silver depends on the available surface area. >>> >>> > Ode >>> >>> Ken, can you remember the url? The reports I have come across stated >>> silver chloride is 300 to 3,500 times less effective than ionic >>> silver. >>> >>> These studies were done a while ago, so the quality of the ionic >>> silver may be very much in doubt. For example, your Silverpuppy will >>> produce at least 22 ppm cs, whereas a 3 nines may only reach 5 to 10 >>> ppm depending on the wetted area. Jason's 4 nines is probably a bit >>> less due to the faster current rise with the higher voltage. >>> >>> Best case, comparing 5 ppm ionic silver to your 22 ppm cs, the >>> figures on silver chloride should be multiplied by 22 / 5 = 4.4, so >>> the 3,500 figure may actually be 15,400 times less effective. >>> >>> A very big problem with these reports is comparing apples and >>> oranges. How do you ensure you have equal amounts of silver ions and >>> silver chloride particles? Silver chloride is somewhat soluble, so >>> how do you state the effectiveness of a partially dissolved >>> substance? >>> >>> I don't think silver chloride gained much popularity as a >>> disinfectant, since I believe it was much less effective than other >>> forms of silver such as silver nitrate. >>> >>> In our case, perhaps it might be worth doing a simple milk test with >>> your known good ionic cs as the reference. >>> >>> And, perhaps some samples of high particulate cs just for laughs. >>> Marv Hacker did one with Mezosilver, I'll see if I can find the >>> link. >>> >>>Best Wishes, >>> >>>Mike Monett >>> >>> >>>-- >>>The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>> >>>Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >>> >>>To post, address your message to: [email protected] >>>Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >>> >>>Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] >>>OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html >>> >>>List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >>> >>> >> >> > > >
