It's not the leaders who are at fault. It's the followers.

Remember the Nuremberg Trials?

They were only following the law.

Forcing someone to do something is Wrong, law or not.

Why not learn to make our own judgments...and it's not
even necessary to 'fight the law' to do it.

stuff

At 07:34 PM 3/8/2005 -0700, you wrote:

I should point out that NO Dr. will administer a vaccine at gun
point....so..it is NOT his fault.  If a law passes that requires everyone to
have a vaccine by law (as some suggest will be on our NEW National ID card)
then the person will be forced to get the vaccine.  Again the Dr. is only
following the law.  If we wish to stop this insanity...then we need to
address these issues with those we elect....  Due Process I'm told it is.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan B. Britten [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 7:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner] Dan Nave

Generally I steer clear of this kind of controversy,  but I have one
comment that I think may be helpful to anyone posting information about
health issues:  be sure that any "attacks" do not invite or advocate
violence.

I mention this because I did read the interesting attack on Pasteur
posted on the the Matrixcide web site.    The author of this sometimes
highly intemperate essay at times clearly advocates physical violence
against MD's involved in vaccination programs.    The author
unambiguously advocates shooting them.   This is not a mere rhetorical
device or hyperbolic outburst;  the author evidently is quite sincere
in advocating the deaths of those who would impose vaccination.   He
makes this statement several times in the essay.

I note that the author of the essay is NOT the person running the web
site.   Nevertheless, it seems to me that a person who posts such
advocacy without taking the trouble to distance himself from such
comments runs the risk of being seen as a potential source of violence
himself.     Further, I know that experts in bioterrorism are extremely
worried about public hysteria in the event of an epidemic/pandemic, and
worry about necessary measures for quarantining those whose refusal to
follow epidemiological guidelines might imperil others.    This whole
issue is a can of ugly, writhing, toxic snakes, and even the best
people in the field can come to differing conclusions about the proper
course of action in an emergency.  The point here is simple, though:
if I were among these folks, essays advocating the murder of doctors
would make me very worried indeed.   I would want law enforcement
people to keep an eye on those advocating such actions.

In summary, I think that the misdeeds of doctors, politicians, and
anyone doing wrong need to be exposed.   However, those who advocate
violence are very likely to do great harm to their own cause, and to
bring unwanted attention to themselves and others associated with them.

I think Mr. Devour should be aware of this aspect of the web site that
has brought about the controversy.




On Tuesday, Mar 8, 2005, at 12:49 Asia/Tokyo, M. G. Devour wrote:

> Dan's charges that John Rigby's use of the list represents...
>
> "... an anti-establishment political philosophy..."
>
> "... an attack on Doctors, Politicians, and the System..."


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