Marshall Can you comment on the ammonia/silver relationship in the body regarding the impossibility of ionic Ag having any effect in the body?
TIA Jim -----Original Message----- From: Info [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 5:15 PM To: [email protected] Subject: CS>Silver-Colloids responds Mike Monett wrote: > > Frank has a lot of misleading statements designed to instill fear in > newbies. We would be most interested to get details on "statements designed to instill fear". These marketing methods are bound to backfire. For example, > there are several reports in the silver list archives where people > have tried his product and found it doesn't work. ... yet, here are the stories from hundreds of users who will tell you otherwise: http://colloidforum.com/phpBB/index.php > Also, Steve Quinto recently published a time-kill analysis of > Frank's Mesosilver that shows Mesosilver has no killing power. You > can see the results at The Quinto time-kill analysis are performed using test procedures designed for disinfectants where the product is used at full strength. Unless you intend to replace your blood with colloidal silver the results are not representative of what you can expect in the human body. For pathogen challenge test results that were produced using silver concentrations that can actually be achieved in the bloodstream see: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/biostudies.html It seems the pathogen tests published by ionic silver producers are done at full strength, not diluted to levels achievable in-vivo. To say the results are misleading in the extreme is an understatement. Challenge tests performed using ionic silver products do not produce results that are noticeable different. We believe that ionic cannot exist in the human body because no scientist has ever proven the existence of ionic silver in human blood serum. > http://tinyurl.com/3qb4v This refers to a page on the Natural Immunogenics website. This is the same company that promotes their ionic silver product by the use of TEM images. Unfortunately, TEM images of ionic silver products do not show the particles that are contained in the ionic silver, only particles of silver oxide that are produced as an artifact of the sample preparation. For details on why this is so, see: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/TEM.html The use of TEM image of any liquid containing metal ions would be virtually useless. > His report on Transmission Electron Microscope (TEM) images of cs is > quite good, but ignore all the chemistry equations he gives. They > are all unbalanced and incorrect. There are no chemistry equations presented on the page, only a table of the Ratio of the Number of Ag2O to Ag Particles. The table was prepared by Dr. Maass, a professor of physical chemistry. I am sure Dr. Maass would be interested to hear about any errors in the table. > And the product reports are very useful. Disregard the accuracy he > claims in his measurements. Numbers stated to two decimal places is > rubbish. We understand this to mean the Mike Monett does not know how to make accurate measurements of silver concentration and therefore assumes no one else does either. The measurements were performed using a state of the are ICP/AES using deferential techniques that are able to produce reliable and accurate results by using long measurement integration times. The instrument operator has received certification from the Varian factory training school on the use of the instrument and has years of lab experience in atomic emission spectroscopy. I am wondering what qualifications Mike Monett may posses in the field of atomic spectroscopy such that he can declare the measurements to be "rubbish". Frank Key Colloidal Science Laboratory, Inc. www.colloidalsciencelab.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
