Here is what has transpired off-list. I made it abundantly clear that there was no censorship or manipulation of information here.
________________________________________ Jim wrote: Opinions may be published. False statements are defamation; in writing it is libel. Speech is called slander. If I had called you a "rude person" is that actionable? How about if I said, "This fellow is behaving like an Asshole? Or, as you pulled your punch in your insult to me, if I said, "Don't be an Asshole". Your behavior was that of a rude and arrogant person. Is "anus" better? . Regarding Hepatitis and CS. I had a severe case of Hepatitis in my 30s. Since that time, my liver was always tender and hard and ached. About 10 years ago, I began taking a small amount of electro colloidal silver daily. My liver stopped hurting in about 3 months. My lifelong tinea pedis went away. I do not get colds or flu. I spray it on small burns and cuts, and they heal very quickly, with minimal scarring. I have researched medical databases for about 10 years, looking for evidence of toxicity. The head of the Life Sciences department of Johns Hopkins University says that the toxic dose of pure Ag is about 1 bathtub full of 10 mg/L silver; about 30 gallons, per day. I have seen several severe respiratory infections, bacterial, viral, and fungal respectively cured in a couple of days with CS nebulized in O2. You must be thinking of your own policies when you suggest that the owner of the Silver List will forbid information that does not agree with his beliefs, of that does not further his personal agenda. No one there---and that includes many medical professionals---would tolerate that. What he does not accept is threats from some self-ordained expert who is offended by colorful language and has a business agenda to defend. If you have data demonstrating Ag toxicity, please present it...or not as you choose. Selecting obscure and possibly dated sources and selectively quoting from them does not meet my criteria for evidence. If you have the data, why are you withholding it and telling me to "go to the library"? In my opinion, you are either a shill for the Pharmacrooks, or a woefully ignorant person who is making money from those even more ignorant than yourself. Post a study---with enough information for the methodology to be examined---that demonstrates toxicity from unadulterated CS and I will post it to the Silver List. Otherwise, do not bother to respond. Jim Holmes -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Campbell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:00 PM To: Jim Holmes Subject: Re: Silver Testimonials I only objected to your publishing your opinion of me publicly, which is slander. You can call me whatever you want privately. That is the nature of our society, not just email. If you want my frank opinion about people who promote products like colloidal silver that put peoples' lives at risk, when there are perfectly fine nutritional remedies available that work and cannot cause harm, the word is DESPICABLE. Jonathan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Holmes" <[email protected]> To: "'Jonathan Campbell'" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:12 PM Subject: RE: Silver Testimonials >I will respond to you if you will agree to honor my right to fully >express my opinions of you, and your opinions, and to use whatever >colorful language that I choose, without resorting to threats in >retaliation for trivial insults, provided I do not publish anything >that is not factually true. > > Otherwise, go away. > > Jim Holmes -----Original Message----- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: CS>debunkers, etc... Jim wrote: > It is all gone away. Mike thinks that further discussion is not good > for the list, and I agree, so rather than try to rebunk this debunker, I > will focus my attention elsewhere. Just to be clear, I don't mind if anybody wants to post information of the kind this fellow provides. We're not here to hide our heads in the sand or to defend CS (or whatever we choose to call it) at all costs. One of the pre-requisites of participation in the list, however, is that you're interested in the subject and assume going in that our silver preparations are worth studying. I'm here to profide a reasonably safe environment for people to explore the topic of CS (and other things) without having to constantly fend off attacks by people who have already concluded that it is not of any value. I think, more than anything else, Jim and Mr. Campbell have demonstrated how ridiculous communications on the internet can be sometimes. A little injudicious temper goes a long way to defeating *any* possible effort to dialog. Be well, Mike D. list owner guy [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [[email protected] ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
