Hey Mike!
Glad to read your recent posts, and I have to admit playing with numbers
can be fun. However, as with the Malthusian doctrine - so called - many
other factors are often dismissed or never recognized as affecting an
outcome. I'd argue that chief among these is the notion that such
replicants are otherwise unchallenged in their multiplicative success;
first, how long do they live? do they live as long when crowded? do they
multiply as readily - successfully - under other self-induced conditions?
under various host conditions? is their replication sexual or asexual or
both? does a "strain" weaken and become less competent over time within the
same host environment? is there a spore phase? what about syncsitia(sp?)?
do we care?
I still remember the story about a Sufi master who did a king a favor and
refused any payment. The king insisted; the master refused again; the king
insisted even more insistently and the master of course gave in. Here's
what he said:
On your chess board, Oh, generous King, place one grain of rice upon the
first square, two upon the second, four upon the third, eight upon the
fourth and so on until you have put the correct number of rice grains on
every one of the squares." As you pointed out, two to the sixty-third
power is a fairly large number, and it exceeds all the rice grains
available then or now.
Hmmmm, Malcolm
At 02:37 PM 7/14/06 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Duncan,
You wrote:
"but it will be a difficult sell to humans because it's easily
contaminated by pleomorphic nanobacteria."
These Nanobacteria sound really dangerous, and maybe we should study
them more. Here are a couple of links:
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Because of the fact that nanobacteria only replicate every 3 to 5
days and their nano size, it takes approximately 35-40 years for a
human to become symptomatic from them, even if infected at birth.
These factors have led us to not discover these pathogens for all of
this time: incredibly small nano size, undetectable with light
microscopes and incredibly slow growth rate..from our myopic
viewpoint, if we were unable to detect it with medical light
microscopes, we assumed there were no pathogens present..the blood
was sterile. Wrong.
http://www.nanotech.biz/i.php?id=2002_01_25
"Nanobacteria are extremely small, slowly growing bacteria that can
be cultured from the blood of humans and mammals. Their size is
20-200 nanometers....when compared to 'regular' bacteria,
Nanobacteria are 1/100 to 1/1,000 the size, allowing them to easily
move around into other cells and invade them. Nanobacteria cause
apoptosis (cell death) when exposed to human cells or other
bacteria. They can cause alteration of RNA and DNA gene-expression
patterns of cells they infect.....this can lead to genetic
alteration, abnormal cell growth and proliferation. When compared to
other bacteria, Nanobacteria grow very, very slowly, only
reproducing every 3 days..where 'regular' bacteria reproduce in
minutes or hours. Nanobacteria cannot be grown in standard culture
media and can only be grown in mammalian blood or serum.
http://www.rense.com/general32/poss.htm
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Hmm... They replicate every 3 to 5 days. Let's take 5 days.
That means after 5 days, there are two of them.
Five days later, there are 10.
Five days later, there are 20.
Five days later, there are 40.
Five days later, there are 80.
Five days later, there are 160.
Five days later, there are 256.
That is 8 doublings (2^8) in 40 days (8 * 5 = 40.)
In 80 days, there will be 16 doublings, or 65,536.
In 160 days, there will be 32 doublings, or 2^32 = 4,294,967,296.
In 320 days, there will be 64 doublings, or 2^64 =
18,446,744,073,709,600,000.
In 640 days, there will be 128 doublings, or 2^128, which is
340,282,366,920,938,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.
One more doubling, and we have:
2^256= 115 792 089 237 316 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000.
The number of atoms in the galaxy is estimated at:
10^68= 100 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000
000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000.
So the victim is now millions of times larger than our galaxy.
But the article says it takes 35-40 years for symptoms to appear.
According to their numbers, by that time a person would be larger
than the known universe. So it wouldn't take much of a health worker
to suspect something was wrong.
No wonder Nanobacteria are controversal, and some people believe
they don't exist:)
Regards,
Mike Monett
Antiviral Antibacterial Silver Solution:
http://silversol.freewebpage.org/index.htm
SPICE Analysis of Crystal Oscillators:
http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/xtal/clapp.htm
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