Marshall Dudley <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mike Monett wrote:
>> You are kidding. NASA is now funding projects to study
>> antigravity formed above a rotating disk, and ion lifters which
>> have been analyzed and proven to be unscalable. Complete waste of
>> money.
>> They should use it to make more robotic satellites, and more
>> visible and UV telescopes to replace Hubble.
> Why is it a complete waste of money? The antigravity effect above
> a rotating disk is a well established phenomonen despite no one
> having a theory as to why it occurs yet. That was confirmed at Oak
> Ridge National Lab several years ago to my personally by one of
> their scientists. You won't see many papers on it though because
> researchers tend to not publish papers on experiments who's effect
> they cannot explain, plus there is a big clamp on publishing this
> type of thing anyway for "National Security" reasons.. The common
> UFO apprears to be a combination of a rotating disk and high
> voltage, which definitely is capabile of antigravity. When you
> know there is a result, why not explore all the possible means you
> can to get there?
> Marshall
Marshall, the evidence for antigravity as a combination of a
rotating disk and high voltage is debatable. There are plenty of
papers available, but no one takes it seriously as a means for space
travel. It is unscalable.
Often, many signals you can obtain from a measurement are buried in
noise. Recovering signals from noise has been my specialty for over
40 years, and I have a number of patents, papers, and invention
disclosures on the subject. For example, see the "Binary Sampler" at
the bottom of the page.
When an effect is beneath the noise level, very minor effects can
appear to be related to the effect you are looking for. Many
researchers have convinced themselves that an experiment yielded
positive results, when nobody else could duplicate them.
When an effect is close to the limits of detection, any thought of
scaling it to useful levels is out of the question. For example,
measurements of the Casimir effect eluded scientists for decades,
until recent advances in technology finally confirmed it. But it
will never be possible to scale it to the level that would lift
space vehicles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
Another example: gravitational waves have yet to be detected,
despite many decades of attempts and much money spent in building
new systems. We even know how far away a system is from the
detection threshold, yet the systems are still being built. The
reason is it gives scientists ways to test new technology, much the
same reasons that fusion plants are built even though we know they
will never produce energy for sale. They advance the state of the
art.
To answer your question on spending money to explore all the
possible means you can, NASA is severely constrained for money. The
Shuttle program has gutted the Space Science programs for decades.
Projects have been cancelled in order to support the Shuttle, and
the people dispersed to find ways to support their families and
mortgages as best they can. This is not the way to attract top
people.
The result is fewer top graduates will consider joining NASA
projects. The effect will be mainly four years from now, when there
will be no one to handle the instrumentation for new projects. This
is not a skill that turning the flow of money back on will solve. It
is a matter of people no longer willing to trust their careers to
the whims of NASA cancellations.
There are two recent articles on NASA project cancellations that you
should take the time to read. The effects will show in four or five
years.
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NASA Cutbacks Cause Uncertainty Among Space Researchers
"These are pipeline programs; these are the programs that produce
both human capital and technologies, and NASA basically disrupted
the pipeline," says Lennard Fisk, a space science professor at the
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor,and co-author of a National
Research Council Report.
http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_development/previous_issues/articles/2006_06_16/nasa_cutbacks_cause_uncertainty_among_space_researchers
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"You can't turn the money on and just watch it regenerate itself,"
says Michael Pivovaroff.
NASA-supported space science disciplines are seeing their budgets
slashed, and the younger members of the community- especially the
astrophysics and astrobiology communities- are feeling the pain.
Three early-career researchers, all of whom were directly impacted
by the NASA cuts, worry about their own futures, the future of
science, and the future of the scientific workforce. All, they fear,
are likely to lose big as a result of NASA's budget cuts.
http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_development/previous_issues/articles/2006_06_16/young_researchers_space_science_careers_are_in_jeopardy_views_on_the_proposed_nasa_budget/(parent)/158
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The Hubble telescope will eventually fail. There is no replacement.
The James Webb Space Telescope is infrared, with limited capability
in visible light, and none in ultraviolet. When Hubble dies, we will
no longer be treated to the magnificent displays of the universe
that excited the imagination, and promoted funds to further study
all aspects of life.
When Hubble dies, much of science will die with it.
Regards,
Mike Monett
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SPICE Analysis of Crystal Oscillators:
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Noise-Rejecting Wideband Sampler:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/sampler/intro.htm
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