"Jonathan B. Britten" <[email protected]> wrote:

  > This whole  calculation  is   misleading  because  it  ignores the
  > question of how long nanobacteria live. It assumes none  die. With
  > a very short life span, the rate or reproduction might barely keep
  > up with the death rate.

  > I assume this calculation was intended to be a joke.

  >JBB

  Yes, Jonathan,  it  was  in jest. But  alas,  I  started  looking at
  nanobacteria more carefully, and it looks like the whole thing  is a
  joke.

  I tracked  down the original 1998 paper by Olavi  Kajander  and Neva
  Ciftcioglu of  the University of Kuopio in Finland. They  claimed to
  have found nanobacteria, surrounded by a calcium-rich mineral called
  apatite, in human kidney stones. You can read it here:

    http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/95/14/8274

  The paper includes many SEM images of  different-looking structures.
  Some appear identical to normal bacteria.

  After publishing  the  paper, they moved to  Florida  and  started a
  company called  nanobaclabs and started pumping  out  press releases
  claiming to  have  developed products that detect  these  things and
  ways of treating infections. Here's one example:

    http://www.nanobaclabs.com/content/pressreleases/2005_03_16_1.htm

  Note they  claim "Nanobacteria infection multiplies faster  in space
  flight simulated  conditions  than on Earth". That  means  putting a
  person in something that simulates no gravity. I don't know how they
  do that  for more than a minute or so in an airplane in  a parabolic
  flight path. There are many other dubious claims from this company.

  Anyway, they got someone at NASA to give them a contract, which they
  touted as  evidence the problem was real. Here's part  of  the press
  release:

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  PRESS RELEASE
  Date Released: Monday, September 13, 2004
  Source: Nanobac Life Sciences

  NASA's Johnson Space Center to Study Nanobacteria

  Nanobac Life Sciences, Inc. (OTCPK: NNBP) is pleased to announce the
  signing of  a Space Act Agreement with NASA's  Johnson  Space Center
  (JSC), Houston Texas, to collaborate on research on Nanobacteria and
  its nature  and  role in pathological  calcification,  including the
  detection and  treatment  of the pathogen. Since  Astronauts  may be
  more prone to an increased rate of pathological  calcification while
  in a  zero gravity environment, the collaboration will  bring  a new
  approach to  NASA's need to better understand the  effects  of long-
  term space travel on humans.

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  Note how  the   claim   has   grown   from  "space  flight simulated
  conditions", to "increased rate of pathological  calcification while
  in a  zero  gravity environment." By the time you  grasp  that, your
  mind conveniently forgets the "may be" preface.

  Now everyone  jumps on the bandwagon. Researchers find  these things
  everywhere. In rocks, Martian meteorites, even growing in  tap water
  in Austin. Here's some pictures:

    http://www.msstate.edu/dept/geosciences/4site/nannobacteria.htm

  The only  problem,  these  pictures  don't  look  anything  like the
  pictures in the original paper.

  But that  doesn't  matter. Everyone who wants a grant  has  to write
  about these things, so some real crud gets accepted. Once out there,
  it lasts forever.

  There are  many papers that try to show the scam, but they  are lost
  in the noise. Here's one conclusion:

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  In the  absence  of  new  evidence  to  the  contrary, Nanobacterium
  sanguineum now  seems now to be a myth. What we are left  with  is a
  clever and deceptive marketing scheme.

  http://www.drcranton.com/nanobacteria.htm

  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  So do  your  own studies, and come to your  own  conclusions.  But I
  don't think  these things are any more real than the  TEM  photos of
  silver particles, which Frank has shown are simply  silver hydroxide
  and are completely meaningless.

  But everyone still publishes them:)

  Regards,

  Mike Monett

  Antiviral Antibacterial Silver Solution:
  http://silversol.freewebpage.org/index.htm
  SPICE Analysis of Crystal Oscillators:
  http://silversol.freewebpage.org/spice/xtal/clapp.htm
  Noise-Rejecting Wideband Sampler:
  http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/sampler/intro.htm


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