It also appears they are using an air bubbler for stirring vs the previous "patented" paddle. Well now, how many people have been doing that for a decade? [And how many decided it wasn't the best of ideas?]

It's pretty obvious that ABL has patents because they have lawyers on payroll who can't spend ALL their time twisting phrases. It's highly unlikely that any of those patents will ever see a court room as every other paragraph is just not true and the ones that are true, aren't unique.

 Patents aren't proof of anything.

 ABL?    Bullshitters..that make good, essentially the same as home made, EIS.

 [or has that changed? ]

Check this out:
If you "run" an EIS generator in dilute H2O2, you DO get metallic silver and virtually no ionic content. [3 uS max] The problem is, the particles join together to make great big shiny mirror like crystal snow flakes suitable for a metal flake paint job.
 Very pretty:
Then months later, the peroxide turns them into a silver oxide of some sort, the water goes deep yellow/brown, black balls of oxides form on the bottom and conductivity still doesn't go past 13.

That process could possibly be tweeked to do something interesting... what and why? Gee, I dunno.
 I only did it once and that was enough.

ode



At 08:33 PM 2/5/2007 -0200, you wrote:

Hi Ode.
I also found this in their patent.

< 6. The composition according to claim 1 further comprising hydrogen peroxide.

Hydrogen peroxide, a know disinfecting agent, has been found to have a synergistic interaction with the inventive silver composition. Hydrogen peroxide is available in concentration of 30% wght/v (% weight per volume or weight percent) or higher. Although the higher concentrations are usable, the preferred concentrations are in the range of 1 to 5% wght/v.

A preferred embodiment of the present invention is directed to compositions comprising 5 to 40 ppm silver, said silver being primarily elemental silver, 1 to 3 wght % hydrogen peroxide, and water. A preferred embodiment of the present invention is the use, and method of use, of compositions comprising 10 to 40 ppm silver and 1 to 3 wght % hydrogen peroxide in water as antimicrobial agents. >

Hmmmmm, i wonder where they came up with that idea. Although I have in the past added hydrogen peroxide to my CS I dont do it anymore. To many different reactions that I dont understand. If the CS is clear thats good enough for me. I was impressed with using HVAC to produce CS using a CO2 blanket but it took as long or longer to produce than LVDC CS. It would take about 2 hours per pint using 2 electrodes and I would have to watch it like a hawk. Makes me wonder if they arent using some sort of blanket and adding the hydrogen peroxide later. Might have to try that process out to see what happens.

Sam L.







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