I had forgotten about the wild yeast. I used to make sourdough starter from scratch: it uses the wild yeast in the air to seed it. When I moved into this present house, it would always turn bad- I could not get any starter to work. Even when I got new good starter from my mom, it would go off after some time. That had never happened to me before in my previous area of residence.

It turned out the house had 3 problem areas of mold, including toxic mold, and I am sure that is why it never worked here.

It was well known in my grandmother's day that if you couldn't get the starter to have the good flavor you wanted, you could get a starter from another woman and keep it going. Some of the old men on the frontier also kept sourdough starter, and I remember hearing that they would sometimes travel to a certain area to get the starter flavor they were after- the wild yeast varied by locale.

Thanks for pointing out about the GE yeast- I had no idea that was being done.

Of course, any one who is severly allergic to anything should be very wary of eating GE food. They routinely splice one thing into another, and it has led to anaphylactic reactions in many people. It is a shame that it is not at the very least labeled. One of the main consequences of eating GE food as stated by doctors is the tendency for allergic people to react to them.

Kathryn

On Mar 7, 2007, at 8:31 PM, Langsley wrote:

Something I haven;t heard mentioned yet is that we live in a veritable cloud
of yeast. Actually that may be a bit of an overstatement but yeast is
everywhere, floating freely in the air and landing on all the food we eat. So we are never going to rid ourselves of wild yeast because we ingest it with
every bite of food we take.

One of the interesting properties of yeast overgrowth is that it causes us to crave sweets and things like pasta, bred, and other grain products. I guess this isn't surprising since it is the carbohydrates in these foods which the
yeast needs to thrive and multiply.

Something I only recently learned however, is that in addition to the
naturally occurring yeasts which are one of the primary forces in
decomposition, and therefore important in maintaining the balance of nature. There is now and has been for several years a genetically engineered and patented yeast. It was developed for the wine industry. There is currently no
labeling required for this particular form of GMO (Genetically Modified
Organism).

It has long been known that yeast gives off numerous byproducts during its
life cycle, which is basically just eating other things, some of these
byproducts are benign, some of them are mildly toxic, causing things like flatulence and bloating, and some of them are highly toxic. These byproducts of the yeast life cycle vary from one strain to another. At this time (to the best of my knowledge) there is no clear evidence of just what the byproducts given off by this new genetically engineered yeast may be or how toxic or benign they may be to humans. Likewise it is unknown just what effect this GE
yeast will have on the natural wild yeasts.

the following quote came from:
http://www.ecologycenter.org/terrain/article.php?id=13547

Genetics Professor Emeritus Joe Cummings, from the University of Western
Ontario, writes in Sustainable Agriculture,

"The United States Food and Drug Administration, in 2003, designated the genetically engineered yeast 'Saccharomyces cerevisae, strain ML01' to be a substance generally recognized as safe; [and] [t]he GM wine yeast did not appear to have been tested for toxicity in animal feeding experiments, nor was the must (the grape residue) [or] finished wine. The FDA review seemed to be based on faith rather than on science." I have edited the punctuation and
capitalization for clarity.

What this new GE yeast does is combine the actions which had previously taken two separate organisms and possibly other additives to accomplish and puts it
all into one new GMO.

I doubt that this will help anyone with their yeast infection. I just thought it might give people a little more to think about when pondering the issues
surrounding yeast.
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