[Oops, sorry for my previous empty reply -- the 'R' (reply) and 'E' (send)
keys are just too close together...]

On 10/13/01 at 13:23, Steve Linford wrote:

>  From Systems, received 12/10/01, 4:11 pm -0700 (GMT):
> >>There are several other similar lists that work on the same principle:
> >>Spamhaus SBL <http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/>
> >>ORBZ <http://www.orbz.org/> (I use this, and it works well)
> >>ORDB <http://www.ordb.org/>
> >>ORBL <http://www.orbl.org/>
> >
> >  And relays.osirusoft.com which includes the lists from spamhous.org, and
> >  spews.org as well as it's own, blocking dialups, open relays, and known
> >  spamming servers.
> 
> I tried orbl but IIRC it was a bit too aggressive. I seem to have 
> found a good combination that's bouncing spam without false positives 
> so far (or at least I haven't got complaints from customers yet)...
> 
> I use relays.osirusoft.com and relays.ordb.org on my two main servers 
> (SIMS Communigate Pro) and relays.osirusoft.com, 
> blackholes.five-ten-sg.com and relays.ordb.org on my backup server 
> (SIMS).

I found relays.osirusoft.com to be a bit too aggressive for my purposes -- it
blocked enough legit mail to elicit a few complaints from my users. I've found
relays.ordb.org to be just about right for my purposes. Combining it with
dialups.relays.osirusoft.com to zap dial-ups and spamhaus.relays.osirusoft.com
to get the known bad guys has proved to be a pretty good mix.

> I would have liked to have kept using the MAPS lists as well but 
> after 3 attempts to get a contract MAPS basically said as I have 3 
> servers the only option was 3 x $200... which I felt was a bit steep. 
> I didn't feel like begging for a discount so I left it.

Agreed. As much as I wanted to continue using MAPS, I would have had a
difficult time selling the subscription fee to my boss, who has a more or less
'ignorance is bliss' attitude toward spam. IOW, he isn't aware of the things
we do to keep it away from him and suddenly having to pay a $200 subscription
fee for it would not have sit very well with him.

                   Christopher Bort | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
            Webmaster, Global Homes | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
      <http://www.globalhomes.com/> | PGP public key available on request

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