Hi Lane,

I can relate - I own www.bear.net as my primary domain. The 
folks at Bear Stearns use bearstearns.com as their primary 
website, but use bear.com as their intranet site.

I get lots of emails intended for [EMAIL PROTECTED], but come to 
bear.net. In fact some time ago so idiot at bear actually ran 
an employment ad using my domain as the "send your resume" to 
address.

I have spoken to a BS lawyer and they offered to buy my domain 
for $10,000. I laughed at him. At the time my traffic was much 
less then now, but still pretty good.

I have talked to my lawyer about it, and she feels I have a 
very good case for compensation. Considering the BS lawyer 
told me that they felt the email problem would simply get 
worse and that they fully expected me to call them some day 
and give them the domain when I got fed up with the bandwidth 
all their emails were taking.

I have also received buy/sell orders, spreadsheets with 
personal data - including SSN's with complete addressess, as 
well as other financial data.

I run CGatePro as my main server and have reject messages off 
for this domain.

If you want to talk on the phone about this sometime, send me 
your number offlist and I would be happy to call you.

Oh, and I have been told my a number of people that I should 
be able to get at least $1,000,000.00 form BS just for my 
domain.

They have a major problem with my site as it is a dating site 
for gay men. They don't like the neighborhood.

Funny thing is, none of the financial media will touch this 
story. As I now actually work for an investment bank myself, I 
had a couple of contacts directly with the fnacial media and 
they told me they couldn't touch the story. BS is too big. 
Trying to get it out in the gay media now. That and I will be 
posting some of the emails received on the site soon.

Dale

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 09:51:20 -0700
  Lane Roathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> For many years my domain, IFD.COM, has been hijacked by 
> Swiss Bank (now
> known as ubswarburg). Beyond the few emails containing 
> confidential
> financial information and some interesting love letters the 
> traffic was
> fairly small, and since Swiss Bank refused to even talk to 
> me about it I
> basically put up with it, and once I started using SIMS I no 
> longer got
> the email into my inbox so it was pretty much invisible.
> 
> Until a few weeks ago when my Centris 610 (which ran DNS and 
> email for
> me) started crashing often. This weekend it crashed and 
> wouldn't start
> back up, kept crashing as soon as a network connection was 
> established. I
> finally startup up w/o networking and noticed that the SIMS 
> logs were
> several MB each (I am used to 22K sized logs, and I log very 
> little
> normally). Examination of the logs revealed that I was 
> getting 100 to 200
> emails per minute from Swiss Bank! So, I took down my 
> development machine
> (an 8500 w/a 400Mhz G3 and SCSI RAID array) and made it my 
> email server.
> Complete overkill, but it's handling the load now.
> 
> My question is how to I get Swiss Bank to stop using my 
> domain? Here are
> the relavent details:
> 
> 1. Internic and Dotster both say there is nothing they can 
> do because
> Swiss Bank has not actually "stolen" the domain, it's still 
> registered to me.
> 
> 2. Swiss Bank seems to be using my domain internally, and 
> for years only
> a few emails leaked out. Now, it seems they are using it for 
> mailing
> lists, including UCE with invalid return addresses (within 
> usbwarburg.com).
> 
> 3. Here are some log entries, there are thousands in my 
> logs:
> 
> - normal logging -
> 06:16:10 1 SMTP-564(gate.chi.ubswarburg.com) SPAM? Recipient 
> '<SH-OCADM-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>' rejected: user unknown
> 02:03:13 1 SMTP-225(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) SPAM? Recipient 
> '<SH-GGL-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>' rejected: user unknown
> 02:18:27 1 SMTP-268(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) SPAM? Recipient 
> '<SH-GGL-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>' rejected: sending host is 
> blacklisted, "The
> host is suspected in address harvesting"
> 
> - extended logging -
> 02:37:26 4 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) Sending 250 SMTP 
> state reset\r\n
> 02:37:26 5 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) OT 22 of 22 
> bytes sent, Flags=0
> 02:37:26 5 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) *Status=22
> 02:37:26 5 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) Received 30 
> bytes
> 02:37:26 4 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) Input Line: MAIL
> From:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>\r
> 02:37:26 5 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) *Status=25
> 02:37:26 5 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) *Status=26
> 02:37:27 4 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) Sending 250
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sender accepted\r\n
> 02:37:27 5 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) OT 40 of 40 
> bytes sent, Flags=0
> 02:37:27 5 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) *Status=23
> 02:37:27 5 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) Received 44 
> bytes
> 02:37:27 4 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) Input Line: RCPT 
> To:<SH-GGL-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>\r
> 02:37:27 1 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) SPAM? Recipient 
> '<SH-GGL-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>' rejected: sending host is 
> blacklisted, "The
> host is suspected in address harvesting"
> 02:37:27 4 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) Sending 591 No 
> mail will be
> accepted. Your host is in a Black List. The host is 
> suspected in address
> harvesting\r\n
> 02:37:27 5 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) OT 105 of 105 
> bytes sent, Flags=0
> 02:37:27 5 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) Received 6 bytes
> 02:37:27 4 SMTP-334(gate.ldn.swissbank.com) Input Line: 
> RSET\r
> 
> NOTE: the "blacklist" seems to be a SIMS thing, I do not 
> have a blacklist
> setup (ie, not using ORBS, etc.)
> 
> All emails to support/abuse/postmaster/webmaster @ 
> ubsw/swissbank/
> ubswarburg have been ignored, or at least not a single 
> response. Any help
> appriciated, like to get my bandwidth back!
> 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Lane Roathe, President                              Ideas 
> From the Deep
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>                              <http://www.ifd.com>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> We are Micro$oft. Resistance is futile. You will be 
> assimilated.
> 
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