At 12:05 AM -0500 3/22/02, Bill Cole wrote: >[...]people who want to pay for it. The SBL is run quite responsibly and sticks >pretty much to the hardcore spammers and very rarely their providers. Spamcop might >develop into a useful BL someday, but it's way too rough and unrefined today. The >Visi relay list (no URL handy... ) is a good alternative to ORBZ/ORDB for people with >ethical concerns about the aggressive testers.
Spamcop and even ORBZ/ORDB already *are* useful BL's already, not someday. They are useful to mail admins who wish to use their information to GREATLY reduce the amount of spam coming in (it works!) and who are knowledgeable and willing to accept the occasional false alarm and work with the end users to solve each particular incident. I keep my users informed, am willing to allow in specific IP's that are blacklisted when a user has a problem (they are usually LEGITIMATELY blacklisted in my eyes since they are open relays so I send a polite form letter to the postmaster cc'd to the user and often they fix it), and am willing to whitelist users who request it (they often come running back to remove the whitelist once they notice the difference). Sure there are problems with some of them getting over-aggressive a la ORBS, and sure who knows how it will pan out in the future in the always escalating battle of spammers and spam fighters, but that doesn't mean that the blacklists are not "useful" services to me AND my users. ############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Send administrative queries to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
