At 1:22 PM -0400 09/29/2002, Bill Cole wrote:
>At 7:11 AM -0700 9/29/02, Paul Didzerekis  imposed structure on a stream of 
>electrons, yielding:
>>Hello,
>>
>>We have a client who uses another company for access and SMTP service.  They are not 
>able to send us any email and I think it is because something is broken at the 
>sending MTA.  From what I can tell it looks like the sending MTA is timing out and 
>disconnecting the connection while our SIMS box is looking up theirs in the 
>blacklists.
>
>
>That looks right. It looks like the other side has a 30 second timeout on EHLO 
>response, and SIMS isn't even getting around to reading that EHLO within 30 seconds.
>
>That's a very dumb timeout length, especially in the modern world where MTA's 
>typically do 2 or more DNS queries at the start of an SMTP session. I'd bet that 
>these people have far more problems than just your site.

Is that what's happening here too?

One of my clients has been experiencing problems receiving email from someone at a 
webTV account.

The log typically shows:


14:44:11 4 SMTP Line 41250 created for answering
14:44:11 4 SMTP-250() Got connection from [209.240.212.83:61700]
14:44:11 4 SMTP(tcp) Connection accepted from [209.240.212.83:61700], seq=38979, 10/11
14:44:11 4 SMTP-250([209.240.212.83]) Sending 220-Stalker Internet Mail Server 
V.1.8b9d11 is ready.\r\n220 ESMTP is spoken here. You are welcome\r\n
14:44:11 4 SMTP-250([209.240.212.83]) Looking for 83.212.240.209.relays.osirusoft.com
14:44:11 4 SMTP-250([209.240.212.83]) Looking for 83.212.240.209.relays.visi.com
14:44:11 4 SMTP-250([209.240.212.83]) Looking for 83.212.240.209.relays.orbd.org
14:44:40 4 SMTP-250([209.240.212.83]) Input Line: EHLO 
smtpout-2001-3.public.lawson.webtv.net\r
14:44:40 4 SMTP-250(smtpout-2001-3.public.lawson.webtv.net) Looking for 
smtpout-2001-3.public.lawson.webtv.net
14:44:40 4 SMTP-250(smtpout-2001-3.public.lawson.webtv.net) Sending 
250-mail.MDCCLXXVI.com is pleased to meet 
you\r\n250-HELP\r\n250-ETRN\r\n250-AUTH=LOGIN\r\n250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN CRAM-MD5\r\n250 
EHLO\r\n
14:44:40 4 SMTP-250(smtpout-2001-3.public.lawson.webtv.net) Nothing read - stream 
closed
14:44:40 4 SMTP-250(smtpout-2001-3.public.lawson.webtv.net) Input Stream ended
14:44:40 3 SMTP-250(smtpout-2001-3.public.lawson.webtv.net) Abort Received, reason=54
14:44:40 4 SMTP disposing line 41250

It would seem that at 14:44:40, an awful lot happens and either SIMS gives up on web 
TV or vice versa. No sooner do we send "...pleased to meet you" than we bail out 
noting "Nothing read". Should this be happening so quickly after "...pleased to meet 
you"?


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