On Sat, 31 May 2003, Bill Cole wrote: > At 6:08 PM -0500 5/30/03, Joe Laffey imposed structure on a stream > of electrons, yielding: > >On Fri, 30 May 2003, Neil Herber wrote: > > > >> If you are using the Spamcop RBL (like me) you probably won't see > >> this message. It looks like SIMS has been blacklisted since this > >> morning. I only noticed it when scanning the logs. I temporarily > >> commented out the Spamcop RBL - so I should get this! > > > >This is why most public RBLs are worth anything, IMHO. They blacklist too > >much good mail for no reason, and are too difficult to get off of. > > That's a gross generalization.
Well, yes. > > >They > >are not "governed" well, and typically run by zealots. The whole guilty > >until proven innocent mentality is absurd... > > It sounds like you are talking about SPEWS. I hear NJABL is a bit > like that too, but it is not very widely used. SPEWS seems to be the main offender here. But many people do not realize that relays.osirusoft.com incorprates spews (I think it still does). So admins blindly start using rbls not know the implications. The problem is this guilty until proven innocent mentality of many RBL operators. > SpamCop's problem is not zealotry but excess trust in automation and > the intelligence of users. Again, machines have no mercy. Something gets reported then it is "guilty". I value my users' legit email enough to steer clear of these rbls. I run my own rbl with millions of hosts listed. If we block legit email I fix it ASAP (which has only happened a couple of times). -- Joe Laffey | Want to convert subnet masks between different LAFFEY Computer Imaging | notations, or figure the number of IPs in a block? St. Louis, MO | Whatmask-It's FREE - www.laffeycomputer.com/wm.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ############################################################# This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To switch to the INDEX mode, E-mail to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Send administrative queries to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
