At 1:53 PM -0400 5/31/03, Bill Cole wrote:

>I really have not encountered that mentality in the operators of The
>One And  Only RBL (i.e. MAPS) or in the operators of other widely
>used DNSBL's  aside from SPEWS, SpamCop and NJABL.

Have you ever been added to MAPS?  They added an entire class B address
range for Flashcom DSL to the DUL while I was using Flashcom.  All
non-portable, many with rDNS entries.  Getting them to treat me as anything
but a scummy spammer was difficult.  I discussed it on this list here:
http://mail.stalker.com/Lists/SIMS/Message/10242.html

This lousy experience with the so-called professionals kept me from using
any RBLs for the next 3 years.  I don't know if it's typical, but it wasn't
inspiring, especially given the hit rate in our 2000 MAPs RBL test (0 spam
and 2 legit mail stopped.  No batting average calculated, div by zero
error).

In the last few months, we've started using some of (what we hope are) the
less-badly run lists, but I am still highly skeptical.  Currently we catch
a dozen or so a day, 75% for a single user who is not careful with his
address.  No false positives yet, which is an improvement.

My current list is
sbl.spamhaus.org "See http://spamchaus.org";
cn-kr.blackholes.us "See http://blackholes.us";
russia.blackholes.us "See http://blackholes.us";
nigeria.blackholes.us "See http://blackholes.us";
dialups.relays.osirusoft.com "See http://relays.osirusoft.com";
socks.relays.osirusoft.com "See http://relays.osirusoft.com";


I thought the osirusoft.com lists were spews free, but if anyone thinks
they're trouble and has other dialup/socks BLs that they think are well
run, I'd be willing to entertain them.

I am much more interested in a well-run list than a list that is
comprehensive but insane.
-- 
Michael Croft       http://www.whiterose.org/michael
SAM: It's 106 miles to the Crack of Doom. We've got a magic ring,
           two daggers, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses
FRODO: Hit it.

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