At 9:54 PM -0400 5/31/03, Bill Cole wrote:

>>  They added an entire class B address
>>range for Flashcom DSL to the DUL while I was using Flashcom.  All
>>non-portable, many with rDNS entries.  Getting them to treat me as anything
>>but a scummy spammer was difficult.  I discussed it on this list here:
>>http://mail.stalker.com/Lists/SIMS/Message/10242.html
>
>I'm actually somewhat familiar with that case, and I know for a fact
>that Flashcom, incompetents that they were, asked for that listing.
>
>Not allowed it, not ignored it, ASKED FOR IT. The MAPS policy at the
>time was to believe what the registered owners of address space told
>them in regards to suitability for the DUL.
>
>(I have the right to call Flashcom incompetents because of my direct
>experience with them as a customer. They deserved to die as they did.)
>
My experience with them was not wonderful, either.  I kept them through a
move.  Talk about pain and suffering.  The story that they went bust
because they lost their billing records for six months and didn't know who
they should bill seems very plausible.

I don't fault MAPS for adding the range at the owner's request.  I felt
that I was treated with hostility and suspicion when I complained.  It
didn't help that I never got an explanation from MAPS or Flashcom, the
problem just suddenly went away.

It certainly seemed to me at the time to be a case of "guilty until proven
innocent, then we'll see..."

That I later found out that it was Flashcom's incompetence (from you, IIRC)
that led to MAPS rudeness was probably what made me lighten up on the
concept of RBLs, if not on MAPS.

>I'd also suggest the Blitzed open proxy monitor list. The DNS root
>and the website are at opm.blitzed.org. It has the advantage of being
>based on solid evidence of listed proxies being abused, either for
>spam or for IRC misbehavior.
>>I am much more interested in a well-run list than a list that is
>>comprehensive but insane.
>
>Every bit of evidence I have is that the Easynet (formerly Wirehub)
>list is one such. See http://blackholes.easynet.nl

I'll look in to them, thanks!
-- 
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           two daggers, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses
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