On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 01:51:26PM -0700, Tom McCabe wrote: > All of this applies only to implosion-type devices, > which are far more complicated and tricky to pull off > than gun-type devices, and which are therefore > unlikely to be used.
We're arguing something tedious, and meaningless. There's no analogy to a crude gun assembler in AI. > If you want to argue, please present your own I don't. I was going to quit from this list soon actually. We're not actually arguing. We're going through the motions, and have been doing so for years. > arguments and not those of phantom anonymous weapon > designers. I can assure you, there are some pretty good people at Livermore, and these do give interviews. Notice that they're not doing AI at Livermore. > Is there any significant black market in classified > information? Yes, you can get expertise and equipment from e.g. Pakistan. > Assuming you're starting from scratch, yes. Why not > just steal a few kilos of U235? It's a lot easier than There's considerable background trafficking in HEU actually, at least if judged from documented busts. This really means the milk of human kindness is not just a myth. > building a billion-dollar enrichment facility. Do you know where I could steal a few kilos of computronium? > By the time sentient software exists, the question is > moot because it will promptly escape onto the Internet > and will probably wreak havoc from there. Very possible. I'm not going to worry about it because then I'm dead, and so are you, and everybody else. > Sooner or later, regardless of what the required > computing power is, the general public *will* be in > possession of it. The point is on later. Also, in absence of knowledge, hardware buys you only very little. So here's your mole of switches. What are you going to do with it? -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org";>leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?member_id=4007604&user_secret=7d7fb4d8
