1. Discussion of using INFO for sending DTMF digits has been discussed ad
nauseum.  The answer is "don't do it".

2. I don't think anyone planned on sending VoiceXML in the body of a SIP
message.  They are too big, and it essentially breaks VoiceXML semantics
(VoiceXML assumes http).

3. Media server vendors *do* use INFO for simple IVR operations.  That also
has been discussed ad nauseum.  It works, follows the semantics for INFO,
and, as Bert points out, is interoperable only if standards are followed.

There is not a standard in the IETF (yet).  However, there is a standard in
the ISC.  See <http://www.softswitch.org>.  Vendors that follow that
standard do interoperate.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] Sip INFO method


I believe it should be noted that the two examples below are not
described in any IETF RFC or I-D (that I'm aware of).  And SIP user
agents that do these things have little (if any) chance of operating
with other user agents (wrt the information carried in INFOs).

Regards,
Bert

Aditya wrote:

> INFO is useful when interacting with a SIP
> media server (IVR).
>
> 1.
> Opeartions like - Playing Message/Recording Messages
> etc can be done with INFO - few vendors use VoiceXML
> in the body of INFO method to send/receive relevant
> info (Message file location, mode to play announcement
> in etc).
>
> 2.
> INFO is used to pass dtmf digits collected.
> One way it is done is to pass the digits collected in
> the body and change the Content-Type to indicate the
> same.
>
> -AD
>
> --- Bert Culpepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>The I-D is now a RFC, see
>>http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2976.txt?number=2976
>>
>>As far as standardized uses for INFO, The only use
>>I'm aware of is
>>described in section 4.6 of
>>
>>
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-sipping-isup-04.txt
>
>>Regards,
>>Bert
>>
>>
>>Jack W. Lix wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I have been reviewing the SIP INFO method.  It
>>>
>>provides a generic way to
>>
>>>send additional information to the peer.  This
>>>
>>information is of little use
>>
>>>unless the far end is expecting it and can
>>>
>>interpret it.
>>
>>>So, is anyone using this method and, if so, for
>>>
>>what information?
>>
>>>A bit of research shows that there is an draft
>>>
>>describing how to send ISUP
>>
>>>messages using the INFO method.  More research
>>>
>>shows that I cant even find
>>
>>>the SIP INFO draft.  Has this expired or am I just
>>>
>>blind?
>>
>>>Any status of the INFO method and how it's used
>>>
>>would be appreciated.
>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Jack W. Lix
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Wind River Systems
>>>
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