There is a key difference between sending a NOTIFY in a subscription 
established using non-sip means and sending an unsolicited NOTIFY. In 
the former case there must still be a dialog within which the NOTIFY is 
sent. In the latter case the NOTIFY is sent out of dialog.

        Paul

Vikram Chhibber wrote:
> Yes, RFC 3265 does hints enabling subscriptions using non SIP
> mechanism. Many Voice mail application servers do implement this
> mechanism. Usually, this is more suitable for integrating application
> servers as part of your own network where the application servers know
> where to send NOTIFY which is in most of the cases a configured
> information. This should not be allowed for end-points outside the
> networks.
> 
> On 2/23/07, Brett Tate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> 1) Cisco is using "unsolicited Notify" for MWI or
>>> SIP trunk. Is there any case to use this ?
>> For "unsolicited", no.  However rfc3265 allows non sip messaging to
>> enable the subscription.  Thus if a phone wants to support such behavior
>> for some event packages, they should allow the NOTIFY for the package
>> without the typical related SUBSCRIBE or REFER.
>>
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