Dale,

If the NOTIFY arrives out of dialog then I don't think 481 is a suitable 
response, unless we also want to overload it further to mean "this 
should have been in a dialog".

And of course, the sender, who is sending based on some logic other than 
having a dialog, may not treat a 481 as an indication that it should 
stop doing this.

        Paul

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>    From: "Vikram Chhibber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>    Yes, I agree now. There is no standard that mentions about
>    accepting unsolicited NOTIFY. The RFC 3265 mentions establishing
>    subscription using non SIP mechanism, the NOTIFY should always be
>    received in an existing dialog.
> 
> If an unsolicited NOTIFY reached a device that really wasn't expecting
> it, the device would respond with 481, which would tell the sender to
> stop sending NOTIFYs.  So I expect that the problem gets corrected
> quickly.
> 
> Dale
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