> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Kyzivat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:57 PM
> To: Stucker, Brian (RICH1:AR00)
> Cc: Dean Willis; DRAGE, Keith (Keith); IETF SIP List; Audet, 
> Francois (SC100:3055); Christer Holmberg
> Subject: Re: What are we arguing about when we say INFO? (was 
> Re: [Sip] INFO)
> 
> 
> 
> Brian Stucker wrote:
> 
> > You forgot about supported.
> > 
> >> So for example, DTMF: Using this model of SIP extension, we might 
> >> define a new "DTMF" method. It would look just like 
> DTMF-over-INFO, 
> >> except the name of the method would be DTMF.
> >> It clearly resolves the INFO-context question, because now we KNOW 
> >> we're getting dialog- related DTMF over it, and we know what to do 
> >> with it. We know what we can transport in DTMF-requests, 
> because the 
> >> RFC that defines the DTMF extension method will also 
> define exactly 
> >> what payload format to use.
> > 
> > INVITE
> > Supported: foo
> > Allow: INFO
> > Accept: application/foo
> > 
> > 200 OK
> > Supported: foo
> > Allow: INFO
> > Accept: application/foo
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > INFO
> > Content-Type: application/foo
> > [DTMF]
> > 
> > 
> > Where is this broken?
> 
> This can work if there is an RFC defining the foo option that 
> specifies that when both parties support foo then:
> - the UAC may use INFO to send information using
>    Content-Type application/foo and Content-Disposition: (TBD)
> - the circumstances triggering the UAC to send are ...
> - the expected actions of the UAS upon receiving are ...
> 
> Because this uses an option, and a new option can only be 
> defined via an RFC, this technique is only available 
> (legally) when an RFC will be approved. (Of course people 
> have been known to invent new options without an RFC, but 
> that is non-conforming usage.)

That seems like more of a legal loophole for defining event header
values than anything else. There's only one currently IANA registered
event header value that is not associated with an RFC and I doubt that
one is going to live for very long in light of RTCP-XR.

Are you advocating not having to have an RFC for an event header as a
positive thing? If so, then isn't this equivalent to a vote for leaving
INFO alone?

Regards,
Brian


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