Hi Henry, there are two aspects to the story:
* Do you believe there is a problem for security when interworking between the PSTN and SIP? (e.g., in the way how SIP Identity deals with E.164 numbers) * If yes, do you think that someone should be investigating what todo about it? Don't get hung-up in the details of a specific strawman proposal that, I believe, shows quite well some of the challenges around the aspect of E.164 number ownership. Ciao Hannes Henry Sinnreich wrote: >> "Here is this problem, this is what we >> (IETF) think, the solution is in your court. Have a nice day." >> > > I believe this puts it in nutshell. > > The telecom specific uses of ENUM technology are more appropriately > handled in the telecom standards organizations, such as the ITU-T, and > ETSI. > > Let's move on and work with Internet and web addressing that I believe > have the real potential for the Internet standards development and where > IETF resources are better placed. > > Thanks, Henry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Richard Shockey > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:20 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 'IETF SIP List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Sip] Infrastructure issues involving e164 numbers > > This is not to say that the IETF could play a useful and essential role. > We > can certainly develop and define the requirements, use cases etc. > > In addition the IETF can architect a solution but experience tells me > that > deployment and implementation issues surrounding e164 issues will need > the > cooperation of "other bodies" which is where the problem lies. It's not > really the ITU, in fact the ITU is a much easier place to get things > done > these days. The complications arise with the ITU member states, who > jealously guard their diplomatic and political prerogatives. > > This was the conclusion that we drew when the Infrastructure ENUM issues > first arose. We essentially said ..."Here is this problem, this is what > we > (IETF) think, the solution is in your court. Have a nice day." > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Hannes Tschofenig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:49 AM >> To: Richard Shockey >> Cc: 'IETF SIP List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Infrastructure issues involving e164 numbers >> >> >> > If there is going to be a solution to the SIP identity problem >> involving >> > e164 numbers, it will not IMHO be solved in the IETF. >> > >> > >> Interesting view. I obviously does not appear to be an easy thing; >> in the draft I called this "There is non-neglectable deployment >> incentive challenge." >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol > Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip > Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip > _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip