> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elwell, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Part of the straw man proposal was "If a user is identified by a phone
> number, its domain can sign with an RFC 4474 signature if it believes
> that calls to that number will reach the user".
> So yes, an intervening domain can change the domain name and resign,
> which is fine as long as you can get back to that E.164 number via that
> domain. As far as DTLS-SRTP is concerned, it means media are secured as
> far as that domain. It is slightly better than PAI because it signs the
> fingerprint of the certificate to be used for DTLS.

Right, but any domain can do this, whether they're right or wrong or lying on 
purpose.  As far as the UAS or UAC know, there is a long chain of trust in the 
middle, or a chain with no trust whatsoever.  Since any domain anywhere can do 
it, without repercussion, knowing that DTLS-SRTP is working to/from that random 
domain has little value.  It means nothing about the end-to-end security of the 
media or signaling or message contents.  It would naturally devolve to only 
believing the signature of your next-hop domain, at which point there is no 
need to sign anything using rfc4474 - you might as well just believe PAI and 
the fingerprint attribute your next-hop gave you.

-hadriel
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