At Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:36:29 -0500,
Dean Willis wrote:
> 
> Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
> > John, can you elaborate more on the straw-man proposal?  I'm not sure
> > I fully grok it.
> > 
> > When I commented at the mic that the problem with such a concept,
> > assuming I understand the proposal, is that there is nothing stopping
> > any middle-man or frankly anything on the planet from simply signing
> > a [EMAIL PROTECTED], for their domain name.  Jonathan's response I
> > think was "well that makes it the same strength as PSTN".  But this
> > makes it effectively useless to sign or verify.  Why bother signing?
> > Just use PAID. (which may well be the final result of all this
> > discussion)
> 
> You MUST sign in order to be able to use DTLS-SRTP effectively.

This is not correct.

Even in the absence of signatures, DTLS-SRTP provides significant
value because you need to actively modify both the signalling
and the media (what draft-ietf-sip-media-security-requirements
calls active-signaling-active-media).

-Ekr
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