Hi, I agree with Jonathan.
Regards, Christer -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Rosenberg Sent: 18. kesäkuuta 2008 1:32 To: Dean Willis Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Sip] INFO and what to do about it? Thanks for raising this, Dean. I think the issue here is not so much 'what do we do about INFO', but rather, what are the actual extensibility models people are using with SIP and are we properly providing the techniques to make it all interoperate. In my mind, that is a really important issue. In terms of what to do, I think we should absolutely define an INFO framework along the lines of Hadriel's draft, and we should produce a guidelines document which helps people figure out whether to use INFO, event packages, or something along the lines of a media framework like I had proposed with TOTE (separate question on whether to pursue TOTE or not). I think the huge number of actual INFO usages, along with the many reasonable use cases we have identified, make a clear statement that this is something that is needed. -Jonathan R. Dean Willis wrote: > We've been batting INFO around for many, many years now (like, 10 -- > it predates the SIP working group). A couple of meetings back, we > agreed that we would discuss use cases for INFO packages, and if we > didn't find any consensus there, then we would go ahead and publish an > "INFO Considered Harmful" RFC. > > We tried having this discussion at the last IETF, but that just didn't > work out. > > Do we try again, or just give up and publish "INFO Considered Harmful"? > > Personally, I don't care anymore -- I just want to drive a stake into > the heart of this undead-thing, cut off its head, stuff the mouth with > holy wafers, and bury it at a crossroads somewhere. > > But this WG only slays by consensus, so what do you want? > > -- > Dean > > _______________________________________________ > Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip > This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip Use > [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip > -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 499 Thornall St. Cisco Fellow Edison, NJ 08837 Cisco, Voice Technology Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (408) 902-3084 http://www.cisco.com _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip _______________________________________________ Sip mailing list https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sip This list is for NEW development of the core SIP Protocol Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for questions on current sip Use [EMAIL PROTECTED] for new developments on the application of sip
