I have a use case where the ITSP provides 1 account(different user/pass same
domain) per DID. If I want 20 DIDs, I'll need 20 accounts.

If I need to use specific accounts according to the destination area
code(long distance calls), how does it fit in this discussion?

-
MM

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 00:08, Todd Hodgen <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of M. Ranganathan
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 8:55 AM
> To: Paul Mossman
> Cc: Mudumbai Ranganathan; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [sipX-dev] A proposal regarding model of gateway <->ITSP
> account insipX
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Paul Mossman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Jason wrote:
> >> This would require some changes in the sipxconfig to allow
> >> define ITSP independently and a gateway could refer to them
> >> by selection.
> >>
> >> Could you have a look and comment on it?
> >
> > So we would need a new screen where you define the ITSP Accounts?  And
> > in order to create "SIP trunk"-type Gateways, you need to have at least
> > one ITSP Account?
>
> You do not need an ITSP account necessarily to have a SIP Trunk
> gateway. You would only need one if you are routing the request to
> SIPXBRIDGE.
>
>
> >
> > The reason would be so that multiple Gateways can use the same ITSP
> > Account?  Therefore you would not have to re-enter the ITSP Account
> > credentials for each Gateway?
>
> No that is not the reason why. Re-entry would be a bad thing ideed and
> you will have people complaining but that is not my primary concern.
> The reason  you would want such a screen because otherwise, you wind
> up with multiple identical entries in sipxbridge.xml and that is a
> problem. sipxbridge can sift through the mess of duplicate entries
> thus created in sipxbridge.xml all the information in it. It is bad
> design.
>
>
> >
> >
> > If so, then:
> >
> > 1. What portion of our customer who use SIP Trunks will have multiple
> > Gateways using the same ITSP Account?  (<10%, 10-25%, >25%?)
>
>
>
> I would say < 10% BUT the more important thing is that these are two
> different things. Why are they coupled?
>
>
> >
> > 2. Of those customers, how many Gateways using the same ITSP Account
> > will they have?  (2-6, 6-12, >12?)
>
>
>
> 3.776 %  Really!
>
> (Just kidding)
>
> But really, polling aside, this is a bad design that is confusing,
> causes needless coupling and is wrong. This must be fixed for that
> reason.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Ranga
>
> >
> >
> >
> > -Paul
> > [email protected]
> >
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>
> I may be missing the point here, but I don't think that users have multiple
> Gateways using the same ITSP account.  They may have multiple Gateways
> using
> the same ITSP.  In that case, the ITSP needs to provide a different
> termination point for each gateway.  I have a customer doing that now -
> three accounts with the same ITSP, each terminates on a different IP
> address
> at the same ITSP, and each has its own gateway that works fine with
> sipXecs.
>
> Additionally, many ITSP's have sub-accounts.  With this, you have separate
> accounts to log into for subaccounts under the same account.  The trick is
> the same here, you have to terminate each sub account at a different IP
> address from other sup accounts or the main account.
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