When we are dealing with 'smaller' vs. 'larger' - what types of thresholds are 
we talking about.

i.e. does smaller mean less than 100 endpoints or does smaller mean less than 
1000?


From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Picher
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 12:22 PM
To: sipXecs developer discussions
Subject: Re: [sipx-dev] Suggestion for DNS improvements within sipXecs

Paul,

I disagree with your assessment in (2).  On smaller systems this may seem 
insignificant but on larger systems the load here is real...  even with a 
caching dns setup (which is what is needed at a minimum anyway...).

Mike
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:45 AM, 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Wow, a lot of discussion on this topic, I think now is the time to give this 
thread a new start.
Let's inventorize improvements and issues, create JIRA's for them and then come 
up with solutions for them.

Maybe I've got it (completely/partially) wrong, but this is my attempt to 
summarize the thread.
A start, 1 to 4 are improvements IMHO, 5 to 7 are issues/JIRA's, should two be 
created for 6 and 7?

1) Bind views
Bind Views are nice to implement branches, and if you want to use branches then 
DNS views are almost mandatory.
We could even decide that they are mandatory, but I don't see what relation 
they have with DNS problems in the sense of resource utilization/load.
So the whole views discussion should be part of the whole branch design.
2) SipX issues a lot of queries
I think the load is not that high, but it's easy to make a linux box cache.
To create a self refreshing cache is nice, but it means reinventing the wheel. 
The wheel will allow a higher topspeed,
but I think sticking to the tried and tested "wooden wheel" caching DNS is a 
tremendous step forward.
3) HA optimization
HA should be as fluent as possible.
Do we need to lower TTL's ( what does it bring, it would mean dynamic DNS SRV 
records)
or rely on DNS to give a list of servers for each service and let the 
clients/servers find an active box/service.
4) DNS server failover (on linux level)
This can be optimized for faster failover
5) SipX resolving unused services
SipX resolves tls records although tls is not used (already a JIRA: 
http://track.sipfoundry.org/browse/XX-9639)
6) SipX resolving records not listed in sipx-dns or/nor DNS advisor
_sip._udp.rr.first.internal.epo.org<http://udp.rr.first.internal.epo.org>
is an example
7) A record for domain needs to be there
According to Tony, I have an A record that I need (for XMPP :) so can't confirm.

etc etc



[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 wrote on 17-06-2011 16:06:00:

> From:
>
> "Geoff Van Brunt" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>
> To:
>
> "sipXecs developer discussions" 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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> Date:
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> 17-06-2011 16:06
>
> Subject:
>
> Re: [sipx-dev] Suggestion for DNS improvements within sipXecs
>
> Sent by:
>
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
>
> >You can always create a sub-domain (ie., voip.yourdata.domain) and
> then to a FWD lookup in your Windows server to the Linux >DNS...
>  With domain aliases in the system you can add yourdata.domain if you want to
>
> I agree, but for these users SipX needs to hand hold them. Many
> Windows DNS admins only know the basics and have no idea what a
> NAPTR record is (they are now available in 2008 R2). Having a sub
> domain managed by SIPX is not terribly difficult, but they generally
> have no clue how to set this up properly. MS has made DNS a no
> brainer for Active Directory domains which is both a good and bad
> thing. As mentioned in my early post a gui wizard would be ideal for
> getting them both educated to the choices available, and to setting
> up either one.
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