I'd say less than 1000. When you start breaking the 500-700 seat threshhold
you start seeing where small performance enhancements make a big difference.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Nathaniel Watkins <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  When we are dealing with ‘smaller’ vs. ‘larger’ – what types of
> thresholds are we talking about.****
>
> ** **
>
> i.e. does smaller mean less than 100 endpoints or does smaller mean less
> than 1000?****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Michael Picher
> *Sent:* Monday, June 20, 2011 12:22 PM
> *To:* sipXecs developer discussions
>
> *Subject:* Re: [sipx-dev] Suggestion for DNS improvements within sipXecs**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> Paul,****
>
> ** **
>
> I disagree with your assessment in (2).  On smaller systems this may seem
> insignificant but on larger systems the load here is real...  even with a
> caching dns setup (which is what is needed at a minimum anyway...).****
>
> ** **
>
> Mike****
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:45 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:****
>
> Wow, a lot of discussion on this topic, I think now is the time to give
> this thread a new start.
> Let's inventorize improvements and issues, create JIRA's for them and then
> come up with solutions for them.
>
> Maybe I've got it (completely/partially) wrong, but this is my attempt to
> summarize the thread.
> A start, 1 to 4 are improvements IMHO, 5 to 7 are issues/JIRA's, should two
> be created for 6 and 7?
>
> 1) Bind views
> Bind Views are nice to implement branches, and if you want to use branches
> then DNS views are almost mandatory.
> We could even decide that they are mandatory, but I don't see what relation
> they have with DNS problems in the sense of resource utilization/load.
> So the whole views discussion should be part of the whole branch design.
> 2) SipX issues a lot of queries
> I think the load is not that high, but it's easy to make a linux box cache.
> To create a self refreshing cache is nice, but it means reinventing the
> wheel. The wheel will allow a higher topspeed,
> but I think sticking to the tried and tested "wooden wheel" caching DNS is
> a tremendous step forward.
> 3) HA optimization
> HA should be as fluent as possible.
> Do we need to lower TTL's ( what does it bring, it would mean dynamic DNS
> SRV records)
> or rely on DNS to give a list of servers for each service and let the
> clients/servers find an active box/service.
> 4) DNS server failover (on linux level)
> This can be optimized for faster failover
> 5) SipX resolving unused services
> SipX resolves tls records although tls is not used (already a JIRA:
> http://track.sipfoundry.org/browse/XX-9639)
> 6) SipX resolving records not listed in sipx-dns or/nor DNS advisor ****
>
> _sip._udp.rr.first.internal.epo.org ****
>
> is an example
> 7) A record for domain needs to be there
> According to Tony, I have an A record that I need (for XMPP :) so can't
> confirm.
>
> etc etc
>
>
>
> [email protected] wrote on 17-06-2011 16:06:00:
>
> > From:
> >
> > "Geoff Van Brunt" <[email protected]>
> >
> > To:
> >
> > "sipXecs developer discussions" <[email protected]>
> >
> > Date:
> >
> > 17-06-2011 16:06 ****
>
> >
> > Subject:
> >
> > Re: [sipx-dev] Suggestion for DNS improvements within sipXecs ** **
>
> >
> > Sent by: ****
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> >
> > [email protected] ****
>
> > ****
>
> > >You can always create a sub-domain (ie., voip.yourdata.domain) and
> > then to a FWD lookup in your Windows server to the Linux >DNS...
> >  With domain aliases in the system you can add yourdata.domain if you
> want to
> >
> > I agree, but for these users SipX needs to hand hold them. Many
> > Windows DNS admins only know the basics and have no idea what a
> > NAPTR record is (they are now available in 2008 R2). Having a sub
> > domain managed by SIPX is not terribly difficult, but they generally
> > have no clue how to set this up properly. MS has made DNS a no
> > brainer for Active Directory domains which is both a good and bad
> > thing. As mentioned in my early post a gui wizard would be ideal for
> > getting them both educated to the choices available, and to setting
> > up either one.
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